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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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sebosfato

Hello angryscientist If you are up to create a very high current recirculating in a tank circuit you need a capacitor that is almost loss less or closer to it i mean low dielectric losses and low series resistance losses.

this way you can recirculate many kw of power using very low power input.

For an example If you have a High Q factor coil lets say a 100uh coil with a dc resistance of 0,005 ohms you need a high Q capacitor too to create a high Q resonant tank in order to have low losses in comparison with the recirculating power. The multiplication factor will be the same as the Q factor of the circuit so if you put 50w in a 2000 Q factor circuit you get 100kwatts of power recirculating and irradiating the water.

Depending on the values of capacitor and inductor the proportion of current and inductance change.
The bigger the inductance is the lower the frequency is and consequently the lower the current. As current is a depend on the capacitor value and frequency.

Read my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html

sebosfato

Yes you got it i use water in between the capacitor and inductor being in parallel so it counts as a series resistance with sodium hydroxide added to it as to get very very low resistance if you have this you get a high Q tank than with a certain current circulation you can make it very efficiently. I remind you that the inductor is wounded around the cell so you have also electromagnetic radiation and induced eddy currents in water and creating a very high pulses of magnetic energy.
With a step down transformer you could not pass this big current inside the water without having very large electrodes. With a resonant tank circuit you can.

Thats why i say is not a joke.   

sebosfato

The amount of power wont change only the voltage and current. is like a resonant step down transformation as to have very high current and low voltage as i said if you put 50w 50Kv 1ma You have in your cell 50kv across the inductor and capacitor but thru the water you have for say 1000 amps if your cell resistance is = to 1mohm you get 1 volt across the cell but ate this power density it doesn't mather much because electrons will collide nocking more molecules and releasing them ionized. Actually stanley said he could use any water and the only way to have a parameter to go with any water is just to add electrolyte wont?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html

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sebosfato

Yes there is a way to steal the electron from the oxygen atoms this reaction takes place when you start to have ionization by collision inside your cells works like a chain reaction 1 electron is liberated is recirculated by the tank and again shot in the water again to knock out more electrons. Stanley meyer called this the electron extraction circuit. actually you could ionize air and sequentially using this free electrons to pass thru the water. Having a extra electron source. Is complex and at the same time simple is my theory about Stanley meyer I'm convinced how about you? 
Similarities what i say what meyer say
Output of the transformer 40kv 1ma 
It can work with any water
It needs a tank circuit (meyer call it resonant cavity to confuse you)
Laser energy can overcome the surface potential barrier of metals aiding collision. (meyer said it was for ionize the gases) 
Meyer had to protect his technology and did it by only hiding on this sentence Allow voltage to take over and perform work on a dead short condition. The work it perform is to allow the flow of this high current and catch the electrons to recirculate by the inertia of the flow of energy in the tank. 

L505

Quote from: Loner on August 24, 2009, 02:31:11 AM
I realize that I'm off the mark here, but "Electrons" cannot "Go" to ground.  Please remember, unless you are working with high Negative Voltages, the electrons COME from ground.

That's why I think it is important to question the GROUND issue.

When you rub your feet on the carpet, you gain electrons as a human. When you go to touch the door knob you get a spark as the electrons go from you to the doorknob.

Why do the electrons go from you to the door knob - is the door knob a ground and if so why would the electrons go there. If it is not a ground, then what is it, just isolated metal?

When you take off a wool hat, apparently the electrons go from your hair to the hat, and you the human take on a positive charge.  So if you touched a doorknob after taking off a toque, I guess it would be quite different than rubbing your socks on carpet.

Quote from: Loner on August 24, 2009, 02:31:11 AM
I can assume that Stan could have been using all negative values, at which point the ground could suck up the higher charged particles.  (No need to discuss the theory with you guys, as you understand it better than I.)

People do NOT understand theory, and that is the problem. If anyone actually understood the Meyer theory, it could be published and accepted by science, and the world would be a lot better place without any oil reliance for fuel (just for lubrication). THe problem actually is there is no theory! There is just speculation, and hand waving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handwaving

People want to handwave because they want to bypass the scientific questions and just get on to building the device, without understanding it and without showing the full math.

People who come on the forum asking for explanations are usually swiped aside as people that are "against the energy revolution" or "with the CIA" or something like that. This attitude needs to change. I for example would build a device if I understood how it worked, but until everything is understood it's almost a waste of time experimenting with a blindfold on (sometimes it is not a waste of time because you learn stuff experimenting, but often it is a waste of time).

Worse, some claim to understand it and claim to have all the math and science done - when in fact it is incomplete. If it were complete, then a student could easily understand the theory within a couple of hours of studying a terse but complete explanation of what goes on. This is not the case.