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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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TheCell

Puharich was the predecessor of Stanley Meyer and mentions this frequency in the yt vid, which he generates by and 'highly nonlinear load' , that means he is generating this frequency by harmonics of a much lower frequency.


rogerthat

Would be great if I could find documentation, pictures, and diagrams detailing how one might replicate Puharich's technology.

I read what I could find of Puharich's work some years ago, but don't recall finding anything that went into much depth.  Time and mileage take their toll on memories, so if I did find information that illuminated a clear path to success, afraid I'm not able to recall it, and apparently, I also failed to act on it.

h20power

Quote from: rogerthat on June 21, 2013, 06:44:43 AM
I remember when the Ravi story originally came out, and everyone was hoping to find the reason why their attempts at replicating Meyer's technology had failed.  Everyone poured over the pictures, circuitry, and what little documentation was forthcoming, but to no avail.  Ravi appeared to have stumbled upon success with no rational explanation.  I'm convinced that even Ravi couldn't duplicate his own success since he couldn't adequately explain what he did that was different.

If one goes back and looks at all the material Meyer produced concerning his successful models, you'll find early models where he was using 3 electrodes.   In my research, I believe I have found the reason he used 3 electrodes.  I have discovered that water molecules bind together to form conduction paths, and as long as current continues to flow through these conduction paths, the molecules stay aggressively locked within these paths, and will resist making new paths.  Thus Meyer's statements concerning the insulative qualities of water.  No one could understand why Meyer would make such statements, since everyone knows water conducts electricity.  I believe this is the key to Meyer's success which everyone has overlooked.

As one continues down this path of reasoning, a sequence of events have to take place to break down water.
1) Apply a 1st electric potential that will lock the water molecules into a configuration that makes them vulnerable to perpendicular forces.
2) Apply a 2nd electric potential perpendicular to the configuration of the conduction paths formed in step 1.
3) Once a number of molecules have broken, and free molecules re-align with the 2nd electric potential, shut down the 2nd electric potential.
4) repeat step 1.

Each of Meyer's models which involves electrodes submerged in water use this method or sequence of events.
Thus the need for pulsing electricity to the electrodes.
It's similar to the domino effect.
If one wants to demonstrate the domino effect, steps have to be taken.
Set the dominos up in a predetermined configuration.
Apply a force in a direction that is calculated to take advantage of a known weakness and the dominos fall.


This was copied from above:
"The way Meyer's technology works is just like an ozone generator that makes use of an ionizing electrical field for the most part. An ozone generator draws in O2 molecules and breaks them down into monatomic Oxygen gas atoms by way of ionization. Nothing comes together inside of the ionizing electrical field but once these monatomic gases are back in our atmosphere they quickly find O2 molecules to form O3 with. Meyer's technology is just about the same but this time water molecules H2O are being separated by way of ionization. Unlike O2 molecules these atoms need to be sparked off in order to recombine but they are broken down in the exact same way.Now to prevent these monatomic gas atoms from reaching a stable state longer the electrons are taken away from the system by the electron extraction circuit. This is how Meyer's technology actually works no BS. The atoms within the water molecules are ionized and those electrons furthest away from the protons are the first in line to get stripped away from the atoms, but in this case those atoms have the job of holding the water molecules together. Now the water molecules can withstand to lose one electron and remain intact, part of it's own self ionization properties, but the loss of two and it simply falls apart into its component atoms hydrogen and oxygen."


This is a layman's explanation of just how Meyer's technology actually works, sorry I can't go into more details than this but again this is how it truly works. Note this technology is very different from Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method. It has taken me several years to figure out the science behind the patents and now I am ready to bring this technology to market and have started a crowdfunding campaign so that I can get the funding needed to get the wheels of manufacturing going: [size=78%]http://www.newenergyfunding.com/campaign/detail/985[/size]


rogerthat

h20power,

You sir have hit the nail squarely on the head!
And, both you and myself are correct!
I am just attacking this technology from another valid aspect.
Yes, the water molecules have to be ionized to weaken the covalent bond.
Yes, water molecules line up to conduct electrons, and once entrained, will resist conducting elsewhere.

Many theories and technologies were required to make the internal combustion engine operate.
Mechanical, chemical, electrical, thermal.
One could argue that it's the thermal theories and technology that makes an engine work, and they would be correct.
But, leave the other theories and technology out, and you don't have an viable product.
Same here.  We just haven't figured out how everything fits together to make a viable product.

Meyers bifilar wound transformer created ions.  Meyers spoke of resonance.  People have incorrectly assumed Meyers might be referring to molecular or atomic resonance, but Meyers was speaking of the resonance of his circuitry with water being a part of his circuit, and the way Meyers used water in his circuit made it one half of the physical makeup of a capacitor. 

A capacitor has two plates or bodies, and it's the difference in charge between these two bodies and their individual capacities which makes them useful electrically. 

There are two ways to increase capacitance:
1) Bring the two bodies close together to create and electric field.
2) Increase the mass of the bodies.

The electrical stresses that can be applied to an inductor are limited not by the larger body, but by the smaller body involved in the makeup of the capacitor.  In Meyers circuitry, the total mass of his water cell is the lesser of the two bodies making up the capacitor that determines the resonant frequency of his circuit.

Most people have thought Meyers was referring to the capacitance that existed between the two electrodes that were immersed in the water, but that's wrong.  The resonance of Meyers circuit depended on the size of the inductor in conjunction with the mass of the watercell, and the watercell was the lesser of the two bodies that made up the capacitance used in Meyers circuit.  So, one end of Meyers inductor connected to the watercell, and the other end of Meyers inductor connected to the earth or the body of a car, and the watercell was the lesser of the two masses.  The less water one has in the watercell, the higher the resonant frequency of Meyers circuit, the more water one has in the watercell, the lower the resonant frequency of Meyers circuit.

And too, the larger the inductor, the higher the voltage, and the lower the frequency of Meyers circuit.  I am not of the opinion that a higher voltage is entirely needed since one only needs to create ions in the general vicinity of the electrodes, and once those ions have been created, one only needs to place a sufficient differential voltage across the two electrodes to create the electric field needed to break the water molecule.

-Roger

rogerthat

Everyone knows what Meyers circuitry looks like where the VIC is applied to the watercell.

This image is an attempt at making things a little clearer concerning the resonant portion of the Meyers circuit.

All conductive components of the watercell make up the total mass of the lesser half of the capacitor that the inductor is connected to.  The earth or car body make up the greater half of the capacitor.

The watercell only has so many available electrons that can be moved into or out of it's mass, thus this is the functional value of the capacitor made up of earth and the watercell, and thus the greater influence on the inductor and the resonant frequency of this circuit.

Meyers VIC is bifilar wound, but these windings are in paralllel, and while they function as a single inductor concerning resonance, they also serve as separate conductors to apply a differential voltage to two separate electrodes in order to create the electric field needed to break the ionized water molecules at the very point in time where those water molecules are entrained in conduction paths, conducting electrons from the rest of the water in the watercell.

Effect and timing creating a synergistic effect culminating in the efficient dissassembly of water molecules into their constituent components.

Meyer didn't appear to have an effective way of explaining the theory and methods behind his technology, or, he was attempting to keep his methods from being discovered, or maybe even he didn't understand his own technology.  He has certainly made things difficult for us to benefit from his discoveries.

-Roger