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Overunity Machines Forum



Characteristics of HHO under pressure

Started by CrazyEwok, March 16, 2009, 12:03:01 AM

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CrazyEwok

Has anyone pressurized HHO yet? Besides in a Cylinder... are their any adverse effects (sparkless combustion). I'm looking at having a small pressurized system (approx 30psi) and wanted to know if anyone had experience with this.

Spewing

i've had the meyer container over 60 psi several times; that's with a small amount of volume above the water. I have also exploded my cells at 30 or more psi due to unwanted back flashes, the water goes everywhere. Always wrap a hand tile around your container and use safety precautions.

I've never tested hydroxy over 90 psi before, I dont think there's ever a need to go that high, and yes, any spark of hydrogen under pressure and somethings going to give since you have oxygen in the mix.

CrazyEwok

Thanks Spewing... I have the plan of using an LPG converted car and having a 1-2 Litre (possible of up to 5 Litre without changing my idea) resivour tank. the idea is to use the LPG injectors to administer the HHO into the engine by aligning the Signal to the LPG injector to the Fuel injector. In the hopes that this will remove back fires and be a more reliable form of HHO injection. if i can get the required amount of HHO through the Injector (hence the Pressure) LPG systems run on 30-60 psi depending on the system. The plan is to cool the HHO right up to the point of injection to get as much in the cylinder as i can with the petrol. Because there "should" be no spark in the cylinder (because if there was the fuel would ignite) there "should" be not chance of back fire unless there is a chance of spontanious combustion in pressurized HHO. since the valves seal the cylinder from the intake i think this would be a lot safe and make implementation of HHO easier (partial LPG conversion). the reason for the 1-2 litre tank is i think there is a fair bit of "electrolyzer lag" from when we open the throttle to when the amount of HHO produced goes up... this cause the mix to change on acceleration and de-acceleration from that intended. With the small tanks there this should hold enough "spare" HHO to suppliment then increased demand ready to be filled up once the car de-accelerates and the demand is sub-sided. this would mean your cell would need to be able to produce enough or more than enough HHO to maintain your deired ratio mix at full RPM... Thanks for the help and i guess i'll hope for no spontanious combustion in my pressure system...

Spewing

Good luck with that,,,, I've torn just about every auto injector apart i could find,, they all seem to contain the same small 4 holes in which i manage to ripp off revealing a 1mm hole... Which is still a wast of time because 1mm want let any gas threw, just enough to blow on your face or light a small flame.

I'm already thinking Solenoid valve, the electronic ones. The good thing is you can tie my electrojolt circuit into your injectors to control another injector or solenoid valve,,, it wouldn't consume nothing from your injectors power source if you wanted to do it that way.

It sounds like to me your about to go down one of those roads i've already been down.. Personally i think if you was trying to boost your gas millage youd be better off just to let it flow into your intake. I have noticed when you mix gasoline fumes with hdroxy that the car will run on fumes if hydroxy is present. 

Farrah Day

I would be very, very careful when pressurising Hydroxy. Unlike compressed hydrogen which can not burn (no oxidiser), hydroxy has the oxygen content to become a bomb.

If you research it a little you will find that extreme care has to be taken when storing hydroxy, as even sharp edges inside a container can be enough to cause this gaseous mixture to ignite. Hydroxy is far, far more dangerous than hydrogen under these conditions and shouldn't be played with this way.

Besides, I thought the whole point of hydroxy on demand was to alleviate this potentially dangerous aspect of the fuel!
Farrah Day

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