Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[k4zep]

Good Morning Sterling,

GREAT information.  The deminsions are amazing spacing wise.  IF he gets a lawyer involved this will be the last we see of it for a while but we have enough information to build from!  It appears that there is some sort of "Pounding" going on in the magnets as it runs.  Super glue is great except for sharp right angle forces to the joint.  The speed of the wheel even @ 6 rpm shouldn't knock off those magnets with the surface area at their base.  Oh, I think it was said that centripetal force causes the magnets to come loose, probably it is centrifugal force....hope my spelling is right.


IF he would quit diddling with it once it is running, mark each magnet place carefully with a scribe on the wheel, remove magnets, clean bottom of each magnet and the wheel, ruff up both surfaces, chemically clean the wheel, magnets with acetone,  use a good clamp to hold magnet in place and use a good epoxy, the magnets would NEVER come off again.  Would take time but would be bulletproof.

Sure wish he would post that last version at least a still photo!  I can not believe he has never just spun started that motor!!!!  Interesting fellow!  The cooling of the stator is amazing, sure would like to see a thermocouple rocorder put on it!  Also, there are very good Gauss meters that can be bought on Ebay that would show the gauss of each Stator leg before and after each run!  Simple instrumentation that would very quickly let you see what is happening.  I purchased one about a year ago from China, spelling on unit weird but works like a champ and measures weak magnets down to .1 gauss and stronger magnets to 1 gauss. It is very useful for matching magnets field strengths. Technology is out there, not hard to come by and fairly reasonable. 

Could you repost the information on the Stator magnet that he is using and where you got it from? 



Ben

I spoke with Mylow this evening as he was driving home then arriving, to see the motor still turning.  He has had it running since 1:00 am Central last night.

As he walked back in his house, it was still running.  "It's still running real fast." We timed it at about 140 rpm (33 revolutions/15 seconds).  He stopped it to try something at around 7:10 pm Central, so it had been running around 18 hours continuous, with no apparent slow-down.

He said it took him 8-10 hours last evening and into the night to figure out how to get the "red" magnet that I sent him will work stably.

He ended up with a configuration of sets of 7, followed by a space of 2 1/4 inches before the next set.  Then the last set has 6 magnets, and the final gap before the first set starts again is 4.5 inches.

"It took me all night to figure out how that red magnet works.  It's all trial and error.  There's a pattern here.  Pattern changes when you change a variable."

"Now it's working beautifully."

He had the stator magnet about 1.5 inches away from the rotor magnets.

While we were on the phone, he move it a little closer, and said it started spinning faster -- too fast for him to count.

He's been talking to his attorney to get advice about the right way to proceed with this thing.  Apparently, the attorney will be coming over this evening.  He's waiting for that before he posts his next video.

I talked him into at least moving the motor over into the kitchen on the glass table so that it's ready to film.

While we were talking, he had a little crash in which four of the rotor magnets came off.

He asked me to stop sending him any more magnets.  He likes how this one works, and he doesn't want to have to keep re-arranging the rotor magnets with each new stator magnet.

He said when you change magnet strength, it changes gapping, spacing between rotor magnets and between rotor and stator magnets.

"It's not easy changing orientation of some 50 magnets."

Different shape/type of magnet, have to change it.  "If you change something, you have to change everything else."

Now here's something fascinating.  He said that the stator magnet gets cold.  His brother had noted that to him.

While Mylow and I were on the phone this evening, he took out a thermometer.  He said the room temperature was 68 degrees.  Then he put it on the magnet and started reading the temperature as it dropped down to about 55 degrees F.  This was at around 7:14 pm, some four minutes after he stopped the motor.

He said the rotor magnets were at room temperature.

"It did that with iron magnet too."

In his present set-up, the bottom of the stator magnet is level with the bottom end of the protrusion of the top of the rotor channel magnets.

When he started the motor up again at 7:18pm it took about 15 seconds to reach its equilibrium speed.

He's always talking about the "sweet spot" where the motor starts.  That refers to where if he lets go of the rotor it begins turning and accelerates up to its equilibrium speed.

I asked him what happened if he just gave the rotor a little spin.  I got the impression that he'd never tried that before.  He is so set on the idea that he wants this thing to self start, that the idea of giving it an initial boost did not occur to him?  I may be wrong.

Anyway, he said, "When I do that [give it a kick start] it starts spinning."

Sterling

[wattsup]

@sterlinga

Please ask Mylow if he can measure the weight pull of his rotor. I will not buy channel magnets until I know this from my last post on the this thread.

What Mylow says about the rotor spacing and stator type changes everything is very true.

Here is my wheel with some magnets. I need some more since presently I am using two magnets per location to hold them in position. One on top and one on bottom for each rotor. On the first photo you can see a linear stator then when put above the rotor goes right through the complete rotor set. Ya man. lol

Mylow can have larger spaces between sets because his wheel has momentum. Mine just has pepperoni and anchovies. lol

What I like about this set-up is spacing is very easy to try just by sliding the magnet pairs. lol

I have not tried yet with two stators, one on top one on bottom but I will get there. Need more neos.

Much more fun.

Gotta go to the office. More this weekend or tonight.

[ellubpt]

Here is my replication so far, I am using standard Radio Shack magnets. Have not achieved a full revolution as of yet but this is the first
model.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBWXyE6zLdU&layer_token=72f5beb619fcfc16

Bill, curious if you have gone any further with model?

[BEP]

Here is my wheel with some magnets.

@wattsup

You are beginning to scare me!

What in-the-world is that base?

A slice of some pump impeller?

BEP

[k4zep]

Hi All,

It is possible that this is a heat driven device!  It would be great fun to use a heat gun and gently heat the stator while it was running and very accurately measure the rpm change if any and also cool the magnet with a cooling spray, same test.....

Ben