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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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nyctuber

Quote from: Chase212327 on April 05, 2009, 11:31:57 PM
Queue,
Glad to hear that you're still gonna tinker around with this.  Hope you're new stators are closly matched to the Relative Sizing and Spacing equations and table that I posted earlier in this thread.  I don't think anyone has attempted to use them yet.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168135#msg168135
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168157#msg168157

I would recommend that you not glue all of your rotor sets down with the same rotor gap all the way around, with the hope of creating a running motor with your first guess/attempt.  Instead, I suggest you VERY gradually increase the gapping (e.g 0.2mm) within each set around the disk, based on the Relative Sizing and Spacing table.  This will allow you to easily test several candidate stators with different rotor set gaps all at once.  No tearing apart your entire rig between each individual test.  If/when you discover a "sweet spot" with a certain rotor gap and stator combination, then apply that all the way around the disk -- and then start experimenting with various spacings between these ideal rotor sets.

Chase212327

Havent tried industrial velcro, so dont know if it is strong enough, but it seems like either that or a circular lever operated clamp mounted around the edge of the rotor would allow very fast and easy rotor magnet placement changes

Omnibus

Quote from: LightRider on April 05, 2009, 11:46:50 PM
Analysis of the last Mylow video #41 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZ6y0o3Nkk&feature=channel_page)
Note # 1 the engine make 98 laps.
Note # 2 there are 7 different accelerations during the video (and decelerations 7)... drawing in attachement.
Note # 3, the acceleration and deceleration are nonlinear.
Thanks

@LightRider, thanks for the interesting graph. Would it b possible to re-post it with larger the numbers on the abscissa and the ordinate. The way they are now are completely illegible. Thanks.

attack duck

It's obvious to me now that Mylow is a trooper and is totally exonerated for any of his accused sins.
Earlier reported degaussings with HJ's replications confirm this as there is no way anyone would
include a depleting stator magnet into their hoax.  Think about it, would you?  Mylow never claimed OU but simply presented his findings to the best of his ability.  No insult to Mylow, but he's just not sophisticated enough to pull off such an elaborate hoax.  Nor did he have the time to do the exacting video editing as Plengo asserts.  He may have accidentally fudged a few things such as the slanted
table top but he seemed genuinely interested in dealing with legitimate criticism.

On the other hand, nothing he has shown proves he has an overunity device.  That could take years
to decide definitively or may never occur at all.  So keep up the great work Mylow!

chrisC

Quote from: nyctuber on April 06, 2009, 02:05:00 AM
Havent tried industrial velcro, so dont know if it is strong enough, but it seems like either that or a circular lever operated clamp mounted around the edge of the rotor would allow very fast and easy rotor magnet placement changes

@ nyctuber

I actually did try both velcro and 3M double sided sticky tape. The Velcro option made it easier to pull out and stick back but because they don't hold the magnets firmly in place, a strong magnetic field will twist some magnets to some offset and thereby whatever you tried to align is no longer valid. Same thing with the 3M double sided tape, which worked surprisingly well until you need to make changes more than a couple of times!
Finally, I decided to use super glue. Noting bonds that well but of course when you're not sure of the final position, it can be messy and difficult to remove!

cheers
chrisC

Omnibus

Quote from: attack duck on April 06, 2009, 02:11:35 AM
It's obvious to me now that Mylow is a trooper and is totally exonerated for any of his accused sins.
Earlier reported degaussings with HJ's replications confirm this as there is no way anyone would
include a depleting stator magnet into their hoax.  Think about it, would you?  Mylow never claimed OU but simply presented his findings to the best of his ability.  No insult to Mylow, but he's just not sophisticated enough to pull off such an elaborate hoax.  Nor did he have the time to do the exacting video editing as Plengo asserts.  He may have accidentally fudged a few things such as the slanted
table top but he seemed genuinely interested in dealing with legitimate criticism.

On the other hand, nothing he has shown proves he has an overunity device.  That could take years
to decide definitively or may never occur at all.  So keep up the great work Mylow!

That's incorrect. As I've already said many times, if what Mylow shows is real, that is, if the rotor had started from standstill and upon releasing had made these many rotations on its own as in the videos, degaussing notwithstanding, then this is a genuine OU device. It doesn't matter what Mylow claims. What matters is what his device demonstrates, if it indeed does. Thus, the only question of any concern whatsoever is whether or not this motor really does what is claimed it does. Therefore, all the focus should be on the replication on the device and I'm calling on the moderator to delete any speculations as to whether or not this device is OU, especially since it's been established firmly that, if real, it is OU beyond a shadow of a doubt.