Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Omnibus]

@mscoffman,

"If a magnet discharges, then the device may be getting it's energy from there."

There's no such principle. Degaussing is a non-issue at this point. The guy should not use this as an excuse.

[sterlinga]

this is an open invitation to Sterling, Clanzer, and anyone else with a respected history here (all jokes aside). I am going to assume that this is not a hoax for the purposes of this discussion.

I am afraid Mylow is going to get overwhelmed and lost with all the competing interests, suggestions, and requests he is getting. I'm hoping to get him focused on the right priorities.

Can anyone suggest what the project plan should be for the next 6 months, to prevent this from ending up in the dustbin of OU magnetic perpetual inventions like many others on this site?

Even if we just discuss options for the project plan, at least it will give him some ideas for targets and milestones. He can't please everyone, but maybe we can point him in the right direction.

Once we have a list, we can get his attention with it on Youtube or through Sterling.

@ dixiepnum,

We already established a discussion list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MYLOW_MagMo - commenced March 18, 2009 for those who want to be involved in this project.

I just now grabbed the domain name: http://mylowmagnetmotor.com to redirect to our project page at PESWiki.

As part of open sourcing this, here are some of the steps/milestones as I see it:

- Mylow either remagnetizes his stator magnet or gets a new stator magnet that work (in progress)

- Subdivide the http://peswiki.com/energy/MYLOW project page as the one page is getting too large, complete with an index bar to display in the right column of each page, and a footer, to provide continuity between pages.

- As more information comes forward, we will keep the PESWiki page(s) updated with the compilation of the best info.

- Have witnesses view Mylow's motor (see my post just prior to this one)

- As more information comes forward, we will keep the PESWiki page(s) updated with the compilation of the best info: material dimensions, specs, sources; assembly instructions, tips, diagrams, photos; replications; updates; theory; etc.

- Once at least one person has replicated this design, let's build a complete instruction manual document.

- After the device has been successfully replicated, we can bring in the media.

- After the instruction manual document has been certified to be clear and accurate, to result in a working device when it is followed, we can make it available for download via Clickbank, e.g. for $20-$50.  That way people with websites can promote it and get some revenue, and we can generate revenue for Mylow and for Howard Johnson's heirs.  PES Network, Inc. will also get a piece of this action to cover our expenses and help us further our synergistic objectives.  The revenue will probably be split evenly three ways between all three of these groups: Mylow, HJ, PES.

- PES Network can use that revenue to hire someone to manage this project, keeping pages up to date, monitoring the discussion list, etc. (If you are interested in serving in this capacity, let me know, providing relevant bio/resume info. Ability with PESWiki, editing, human interactions, writing, image management, web editing, etc. should be noted.  Bear in mind that at the beginning, before things grow, wages will be very modest. Until this project matures enough to warrant a hire, those who have demonstrated their interest and ability with the project through their voluntary participation will have an advantage when it comes time to hire someone.)  Some of the revenue should also go toward those in the open source project who have contributed the most to its knowledge and volunteer base.

- Simultaneous with the plans preparation, we can start working on a kit.  That is also something that could become a hired position from the revenues being generated.

- As demand increases, so can the number of paid positions to keep things running smoothly.

- As new plans emerge (e.g. larger, smaller, better/easier/cheaper materials, modified approaches), these can likewise be made available, both on the open source page for further refinement, as well as via downloadable books via Clickbank promotion by affiliates.

- Also, as soon as replication is accomplished, there are likely to be companies emerge to begin refining these designs for commercial applications.  They are likely to keep their progress quiet and to apply for patents on their improvements, which is fine.  However, I do think a suggested royalty rate should be presented.


I ran an "Open Source Caveat" statement by Mylow just now when he called again, and he's going to think about it and run it by his lawyer:

"In open sourcing this design, we only request that if you go commercial with it (selling plans, kits, or finished units in volumes of 5 or more), that you include a 3% royalty to be split three ways between Mylow, Howard Johnson's heirs or assigns, and PES Network, Inc. (which is coordinating this project here). There is no patent, and Howard Johnson's patents are expired, and there is no copyright on the contents of these PESWiki pages, so this request is one that is not enforceable. But out of an appeal to ethics, we expect that you honor the request. The royalty percentage is purposely low so that you will not be placed under an unreasonable burden in competing with those who will not honor this request. Contact PES Network, Inc. to work out reasonable licensing arrangements."

He said it is fine for us to list our PESWiki page as the "official site" for this replication project.

I'm going to be sending him some title/description wording/grammar/punctuation edits for his YouTube videos.

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[Omnibus]

Just watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzGAMUZCZZo&feature=channel_page . The guy sounds so genuine. Reminds me of Finsrud when I visited him a couple of years ago. Unlike Mylow who has his ideas only on paper, Finsrud was showing me on and on actual models he had built throughout the years. Numerous, numerous models. I think he should exhibit them in his gallery. He has them now in a sort of a machine shop in the basement of his gallery. I have on videotape probably a couple of hours of him explaining all these ideas although he asked me not to videotape what’s in his improvised basement machine shop. What we know now about Finsrud is only the crown of all these efforts, unfortunately unsuccessful but that obviously had led him to the relative success he now enjoys.

Probably, the folks here remember the text I wrote about my talks later with colleagues from the physics department at Oslo university. Not worth reminding. There are gifted individuals in this world and there are those relying on job schemes covering that up by calling themselves scientists.

[ramset]

Omnibus
Besides ""Only on paper""He has something spinning on his coffee table

The ball is rolling ,we shall see?

Chet

PS Sterlinga great ideas!!

[PaulLowrance]

How many people are now working on replicating mylow's device?

Recent claims by mylow videoing it on a glass table and taking it to a notable scientist sounds good. When or *if* both events occur, IMO a lot of people will begin to replicate it, perhaps even myself!  Such events will be the first signs of sincerity he'll show, if he does them, but that's a big if. Although I'm open-minded, people should know there's a good chance mylow will never video it on a glass table or allow a notable scientist analyze his machine. No hopes up of that over here. My only hope here is that in case this is a fake, then everyone here will take their pledge to *NOT* allow this to discourage them in any way.


If it's legit, then IMO the machine won't so easily work if the PM's are replaced with say ceramics of neos, but you never know until you try it. Alnico and hard iron PM's have very unique characteristics from other PM's.


PL