Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Bobbotov]

No.  You answered your own question:

We have a responsibility to identify and suppress suppression.  Intelligent moderation is the key and I assume that this is no easy task.

1. Name calling is obvious grounds for suppression.

2. Accusations of hoaxing that lack specific technical examples should also be suppressed.

3. Excessively large numbers of repetitive posts, (skeptical or supportive,) by any one individual that add no new value, make it difficult and time consuming for us to glean out the few unique thought provoking posts.  A daily post limit on any one topic seems unfair but, without this, moderating becomes a full time job.

4. Off-topic posts that add no value should simply be deleted.  Your post and my response here should both be deleted because you and I are not addressing the topic.

@wattsup, if you delete this, my, post then that will be the end of it.  I will not be posting a complaint about your decision due to item 4 above.

Your examples are not of suppression but rather moderation and no forum can run successfully without it. Suppression is refusing to allow dissenting voices or differences of opinion to be heard that have merit but are prevented from doing so because they violate the preconceived notions of whomever is running the show. Moderating unruly members is for the purpose of preventing chaos. Suppressing differing opinions is not moderation.

Pointing out the benefits of validation and falsification of the claim is not off topic as this thread is regarding a "claim" (i.e. Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim).  This claim is in no way de facto regardless of how many YouTubes are produced. It is just one man's claim without any justification other than what he says and shows. No advancement in science will ever rest solely on the claims made via YouTube alone.

[ramset]

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[wattsup]

@CLaNZeR

Noticed you post also. There has to be a way to position those stators to get a better effect. Is it possible that the gap between them is too big, or their linear relation. Seems Mylow says the stators polarities that meet in the middle have to be not that far apart.

@mikestocks2006

I don't know how putting some dual sides tape may cause an insulation effect on the rotors or take away some of the possible skin effect. That would be very hard to test one way or the other. I am trying to find some strong ready made plastic clips that would be good to just secure the magnets in place without gluing them because this is for the sure the most time consuming part of the learning curve.

[Yucca]

@Yucca

According to who's time table. Guys already know that this will take time. There is no "build it and make it run in 3 days guarantee" Just because we have not had some replications working, does not mean we will not with time. Does not give the right to blame Mylow. Does not give the right to DEMAND anything from Mylow. Does not give the right to treat him like a conman. Does not give the right to push this academic bull on the guy.

I'm very patient, there is no hurry. But I think if he just showed willing to share properly, of course on his own terms with regard to time, then it would be a positive step forward.

With regard to the pushing of acedemic bull onto the guy. Well I'm not quite sure what you mean, I wasn't aware that mylow participated in the forum. I thought this was an open forum, where truth and logic should be encouraged, not suppressed.

Once this effect is mastered by some builders, then, there is no stopping it. Or is tahtwhat some are afraid of. You can verify it and say it works. But if Mylow does not give us his best overview on the build, what's the point, except that then there is a risk of it dying. Just great.

I think his current course is one that will lead to it "dying" if he wishes it to prosper then he should really share the real deal with someone. If it were me I would offer to build other inquisitive experimenters running rigs, for a price of course.

We here make builds, we form teams. Mylow is our pitcher and he throws one hell of a fast ball. Now some spectators may not like him and call him names from the bleachers, but when his own team mates start ganging up on him, what does this do to the team. A good coach would simply warn the players, "Hey the guys a members of our team so treat him as such, even if you do not know how he throws his ball so fast. Who cares. He will show you with time". If some members of the team persist, the coach has a decision to make. Who is more important to the team. The pitcher or the 3rd fielder that can't stop pestering. Easy decision. I was a coach for 10 years. You kick the player off the team. Simple.

Sorry, but I don't see any fastballs being thrown, all seem to be going somewhat slow and wide if you ask me.

Anyway for now I will desist from playing on your field big coach man, you know best. I will retire to the bench and watch.

edit: also wasn't aware this was the builders thread, thought it was the general discussion thread. sorry for my mistake coach. And it also seems a strange game where the coach of one team is also the referee? The referee (moderator) should really be impartial and solely objective, but hey what do I know about baseball?

[lumen]

@TK

That is fascinating, and the only explanation I can come up with (got magnets here but have to wait till Monday for the Al at work) is that the axis of magnetization might not be the same as the physical axis of the magnet. Cylinder magnets? Could you post a picture so I'll know which ones to use?

I posted a short video showing the uneven magnetic drag effect with a few different magnets. I am sure it is there but don't really know why at this time.

It's almost like one field direction has almost a hooking effect on the aluminum where the other direction a light push.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw