Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Rosphere]

2. Accusations of hoaxing that lack specific technical examples should also be suppressed.

I went back and re-watched the backed-up copies of the few videos that Mylow made of his device operating on the glass table.  I noticed the following 'technical examples' of a probable hoax.  I suspect that there may be a fishing-line 'pulley string' around the shaft going off-camera to the left and that the camera resolution is too low to see it.


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAs4-rQXQjU&feature=channel_page

At 1:22 he walks to the back of the table taking the long route around the right instead of the short route around the left.  (Avoiding the string to the left.)

At 1:40 he states that he, "wants to make sure that everything is nice and tight," and that he is going to move the rotor assembly to the right, (our right,) to make it go faster.  (Adding tension to the string.)

At 2:24 he walks around the right side of the table again, back to the camera.  (Again, avoiding the string to the left.)

At 2:47 he does a walk-around with the camera.  (The camera work seems a bit 'bouncy' as he passes by the left side, as if he is stepping over the string.)

At 5:05 he stands on the glass table, camera in hand pointing down at the device.  Then he starts another clockwise walk around.

At 5:30 his left foot steps over 'something' on the left side of the device.  (The string?)

At 5:32 his right foot steps over 'something' on the left side of the device.  The rest of the path around the table he shuffles his feet on the table appearing to step over nothing.

At 5:51 we catch a quick glimpse of some 'breadbox' sized object sitting on the love seat in the background on the opposite, (left,) side of the table high enough where a drive motor might be placed.  (There appear to be wires connected to the left side of this box and a 'stick' poking out of the right side, perhaps the switch.)

At 6:50 he again takes the right side path to the back of the table.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 8:22 he again takes the right side path to return to the camera.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 9:05 he again takes the longer right side path to the back of the table, to show his face.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 9:25 he again takes the right side path to return to the camera.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLzh5cibTKE&feature=channel_page

At 0:41 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side.  (I suspect that the string is still around the shaft between his left hand and the rotor plate.)

At 0:50~052 he appears to be moving the string out of the way as he mumbles something about putting, "it right there," as he touches the left stator support for some strange reason.  (Whoops.)

At 1:18 he replaces the rotor assembly and mumbles, "make sure everything is lined up here."  He is looking under the rotor, for some reason, up until 1:24.

At 1:34 he picks it up and moves it slightly to the right, (taking-up string slack.)  Then he replaces the stator assembly.

At 2:03~2:06 again, he moves the rotor assembly even more to the right, (adding string tension.)

At 2:26 he lets go of the rotor assembly and it starts to spin slowly and smoothly.  (there appears to be no jerking, (da/dt,) as the ends of the rotor magnet groups pass under the stator as we have seen in his other videos.)

At 3:15 he, again, takes the long path around the right side of the table to move to the back.  (After adjusting the stator position and not getting any more speed, the rotor seems to be moving slowly at a steady rate still.)

At 3:22~3:37 he plays with the stator adjustment with no change in speed.

At 3:41 he, again, takes the long right side path around the table back to the camera.

At 3:44 he moves off camera to the left, where the drive motor may be located.

At ~4:10 the rotor seems to be accelerating.  (After some tension adjustment from the motor side.)

At 4:45 he, again, takes the long path around the right side of the table to the back, avoiding stepping over the string on the left side.

At 6:45 he explains that he, "got this cool little rubber material so this thing won't slide."  Why would it if, "this stator assembly is being pulled down?"

At 7:26 he, again, takes the long way around the right side of the table to get to the left side of the camera.  (Avoiding the string on the left side.)

At 8:20 he does a walk-around with the camera.  (The camera work seems a bit 'bouncy' as he passes by the left side, like in the previous video, as if he is stepping over the string.)

At 8:37 of the walk-around, when he is on the right side of the table, we can not see high enough in the background to see that box on the love seat from the previous video, (at 5:51.)

At 9:21, after stopping the device, he moves the rotor assembly to the left.  (To take tension off the string.)

At 9:30 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side, again, like at the beginning of this video.

At 9:37 he brings the rotor right up to the camera to show the bearing.  (The string must be off the shaft now because we are at the end of the video and he no longer needs it.)

At 9:52 he quickly replaces the rotor assembly on the stand, (without taking the extra few seconds that he needed when he replaced it the first time.)


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGC8EPKBgg&feature=channel_page

At 0:30 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side, again, like with the previous videos.

At 0:34 he shows the bearing like at the end of the previous video but he does not bring the rotor right up to the camera.  (The string is still attached to the shaft.)

At 1:03 he slides the rotor assembly to the right after replacing it on the base.

At 1:05 he says, "I'm pushing this disk this way," (pointing to the right,) "so I can be able to get it to go."  (String tension again.)

At 1:45 he says, "for me to get this to go, I'm going to push this this more that way."  Again, pointing to the right.  Then he does.

At 2:01 he says, "I don't know why this thing's not working."

At 2:27 he says, "I don't know why it's not working," as he looks under the rotor at the shaft, (where the string is attached.)

He fiddles with it some more and ends the video early, at 3:34, without success.  (Maybe he got some body oil on the shaft from the end of the previous video when he took it apart.)


I hope this is enough 'technical examples' to show why I suspect this may be a hoax.

[0c]

As usual I got to prove everything to myself, rather than take anyones word for it.

Curious ... wonder what happens if you tilt the aluminum just past vertical. Will the magnet cling or fall?

[Pirate88179]

I went back and re-watched the backed-up copies of the few videos that Mylow made of his device operating on the glass table.  I noticed the following 'technical examples' of a probable hoax.  I suspect that there may be a fishing-line 'pulley string' around the shaft going off-camera to the left and that the camera resolution is too low to see it.


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAs4-rQXQjU&feature=channel_page

At 1:22 he walks to the back of the table taking the long route around the right instead of the short route around the left.  (Avoiding the string to the left.)

At 1:40 he states that he, "wants to make sure that everything is nice and tight," and that he is going to move the rotor assembly to the right, (our right,) to make it go faster.  (Adding tension to the string.)

At 2:24 he walks around the right side of the table again, back to the camera.  (Again, avoiding the string to the left.)

At 2:47 he does a walk-around with the camera.  (The camera work seems a bit 'bouncy' as he passes by the left side, as if he is stepping over the string.)

At 5:05 he stands on the glass table, camera in hand pointing down at the device.  Then he starts another clockwise walk around.

At 5:30 his left foot steps over 'something' on the left side of the device.  (The string?)

At 5:32 his right foot steps over 'something' on the left side of the device.  The rest of the path around the table he shuffles his feet on the table appearing to step over nothing.

At 5:51 we catch a quick glimpse of some 'breadbox' sized object sitting on the love seat in the background on the opposite, (left,) side of the table high enough where a drive motor might be placed.  (There appear to be wires connected to the left side of this box and a 'stick' poking out of the right side, perhaps the switch.)

At 6:50 he again takes the right side path to the back of the table.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 8:22 he again takes the right side path to return to the camera.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 9:05 he again takes the longer right side path to the back of the table, to show his face.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)

At 9:25 he again takes the right side path to return to the camera.  (Again, avoiding a potential string on the left.)


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLzh5cibTKE&feature=channel_page

At 0:41 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side.  (I suspect that the string is still around the shaft between his left hand and the rotor plate.)

At 0:50~052 he appears to be moving the string out of the way as he mumbles something about putting, "it right there," as he touches the left stator support for some strange reason.  (Whoops.)

At 1:18 he replaces the rotor assembly and mumbles, "make sure everything is lined up here."  He is looking under the rotor, for some reason, up until 1:24.

At 1:34 he picks it up and moves it slightly to the right, (taking-up string slack.)  Then he replaces the stator assembly.

At 2:03~2:06 again, he moves the rotor assembly even more to the right, (adding string tension.)

At 2:26 he lets go of the rotor assembly and it starts to spin slowly and smoothly.  (there appears to be no jerking, (da/dt,) as the ends of the rotor magnet groups pass under the stator as we have seen in his other videos.)

At 3:15 he, again, takes the long path around the right side of the table to move to the back.  (After adjusting the stator position and not getting any more speed, the rotor seems to be moving slowly at a steady rate still.)

At 3:22~3:37 he plays with the stator adjustment with no change in speed.

At 3:41 he, again, takes the long right side path around the table back to the camera.

At 3:44 he moves off camera to the left, where the drive motor may be located.

At ~4:10 the rotor seems to be accelerating.  (After some tension adjustment from the motor side.)

At 4:45 he, again, takes the long path around the right side of the table to the back, avoiding stepping over the string on the left side.

At 6:45 he explains that he, "got this cool little rubber material so this thing won't slide."  Why would it if, "this stator assembly is being pulled down?"

At 7:26 he, again, takes the long way around the right side of the table to get to the left side of the camera.  (Avoiding the string on the left side.)

At 8:20 he does a walk-around with the camera.  (The camera work seems a bit 'bouncy' as he passes by the left side, like in the previous video, as if he is stepping over the string.)

At 8:37 of the walk-around, when he is on the right side of the table, we can not see high enough in the background to see that box on the love seat from the previous video, (at 5:51.)

At 9:21, after stopping the device, he moves the rotor assembly to the left.  (To take tension off the string.)

At 9:30 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side, again, like at the beginning of this video.

At 9:37 he brings the rotor right up to the camera to show the bearing.  (The string must be off the shaft now because we are at the end of the video and he no longer needs it.)

At 9:52 he quickly replaces the rotor assembly on the stand, (without taking the extra few seconds that he needed when he replaced it the first time.)


Regarding video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGC8EPKBgg&feature=channel_page

At 0:30 he removes the rotor from the base and holds it to the left side, again, like with the previous videos.

At 0:34 he shows the bearing like at the end of the previous video but he does not bring the rotor right up to the camera.  (The string is still attached to the shaft.)

At 1:03 he slides the rotor assembly to the right after replacing it on the base.

At 1:05 he says, "I'm pushing this disk this way," (pointing to the right,) "so I can be able to get it to go."  (String tension again.)

At 1:45 he says, "for me to get this to go, I'm going to push this this more that way."  Again, pointing to the right.  Then he does.

At 2:01 he says, "I don't know why this thing's not working."

At 2:27 he says, "I don't know why it's not working," as he looks under the rotor at the shaft, (where the string is attached.)

He fiddles with it some more and ends the video early, at 3:34, without success.  (Maybe he got some body oil on the shaft from the end of the previous video when he took it apart.)


I hope this is enough 'technical examples' to show why I suspect this may be a hoax.

Nice analysis here!  I also like how you state at the end "Why I suspect this MAY be a hoax."  No one should be able to argue with that.  You are not calling Mylow names, or are you making any personal attacks.  but, still be prepared for Watts to jump on you for doubting this already proven beyond any doubt in his mind motor.  He will consider this a direct attack on Mylow and his family.  I consider it a very good representation of the facts as presented to us and looked at objectively and stated as such.  Very well done sir.

Bill

[chrisC]

I went back and re-watched the backed-up copies of the few videos that Mylow made of his device operating on the glass table.  I noticed the following 'technical examples' of a probable hoax.  I suspect that there may be a fishing-line 'pulley string' around the shaft going off-camera to the left and that the camera resolution is too low to see it......

I hope this is enough 'technical examples' to show why I suspect this may be a hoax.

A fishy line huh?. Wouldn't it be funny if this was true. I think Wattsup should have an open mind and not treat everything as a personal attack on MyLow. MyLow did it to himself by deliberately not coming forth with a positive attitude to let some qualified people to verify this wonderful discovery.

Well, he's probaly gone fishing for good. You guys will have to pick up the pieces!

cheers
chrisC

[RunningBare]

If wattsup still has not even the smallest doubt in his mind after this analysis then I would be quite suspicious about his motivations, it is nice to believe in something, but a line has to be drawn when there is even the tiniest possibility that people are being taken for fools.

Nice analysis here!  I also like how you state at the end "Why I suspect this MAY be a hoax."  No one should be able to argue with that.  You are not calling Mylow names, or are you making any personal attacks.  but, still be prepared for Watts to jump on you for doubting this already proven beyond any doubt in his mind motor.  He will consider this a direct attack on Mylow and his family.  I consider it a very good representation of the facts as presented to us and looked at objectively and stated as such.  Very well done sir.

Bill