Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[miki02131]

Guys,

Let's face it so that we can save face when the truth comes down. An all passive and permanent magnet motor is an impossibility. It's
always possible to go downhill but the way back up requires some external input. But for sake of FE, let's give Mylow a 10% chance of success. We all know it would take a miracle for that to happen. Then again who knows what God may do next: maybe he may decide to rewrite the laws of magnetism. I have a feeling Mylow's answer resides more in a prayer than a replication.

Good luck all,

Miki.

[slapper]

Just got off the phone with allmagnetics.com that seems to have provided what appears to be the closest match to the channel/bridge magnets that MyLow uses.

The part number I used was ACH79 for the rotor magnets and either HS3702 or HS811N for the stator. Pretty much all the c magnets are discontinued and are
no longer in stock. Something about cobalt material being in short supply or expensive. But they will do a special order if you've got thousands of dollars available
for tooling. This can mean a healthy lead time as well.

The HS3702 was also discontinued but it appears that the HS811N is still in stock. Didn't bother to pursue the stator magnets much since there is an issue
with the rotor mags.

Another source:
ACH79 Channel magnet Alnico 5 magnetized with two poles
100pcs $1.28 each plus one time charge for tooling of $175.00 6-8 week delivery

They have 2 other similar magnets in stock for immediate delivery:
0.280 X 0.370 X 0.750 Channel magnet Alnico 5 magnetized with two poles; 100 pcs $1.38 each
0.380 X 0.370 X 0.840 Channel magnet Alnico 5 magnetized with two poles; 100 pcs $1.48 each
They both have 0.125 hole in the middle.

The following image is the fax they sent me.

Take care.

nap

[Bessler007]

Electromagnets with battries balanced on the rotor would be a cheaper and quicker alternative than magnets.  The coils could be wound around 16 penny spikes.

That rig could be made to be readily adjustable.



Regards,

Bessler007
Cmdr, MIB

[k4zep]

Hi Gang,

Using ferrite, Neo's and/or Alinco's, so far my simple little can motor has a sticky spot and does not run.  I am not discouraged but just more determined to make
a model work. 

ONE of the most important things about the "U" Stator magnet is the statement that in a running motor (slow) it is so weak, it won't even pick up anything!!!!
That caught my eye.

We have very normal fields on the rotor between the top/bottom bracket magnets and then this weak stator magnet that is almost not a magnet,
and in theory should be attracted via the iron content to the bracket magnets but via almost random placement in groups, this cancels out also. Then a very weak spin? field works to push the rotor magnets by the stator magnet.

It appears that a strong magnetic field in the stator magnet is very counter productive in this type of motor!  Strange!  Still working and thinking on it!!!!  I would love to see a Neo or in fact any normal magnet placed on the back of the "U"  magnet with correct polarity to boost its field and see if it continued to rotate and/or rotate faster!

It also appears to build a model using as close to magnets readily available as can be found will cost us in the $150-200 dollar range just for the magnets..........and I still don't understand the Stator magnet theory yet..  I am beginning to wonder if due to the material of the stator and the recent magnetization if there is a short term Spin field in the material that causes it to work.

Ben

[Omnibus]

@miki02131,

Let's face it so that we can save face when the truth comes down. An all passive and permanent magnet motor is an impossibility.

No, we cannot face such a thing because it’s just the opposite â€" permanent magnet motor is a possibility since it has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that energy can come out of nothing (meaning that energy can appear due to a created opportunity, say, proper construction, for a conservative force to induce replacement). Once this is clear the engineering effort to create a working model is just a matter of time, skills and good conditions for rendering a model. Some luck, of course. And perseverance, let’s not forget it. Now, whether or not Mylow has achieved it still remains to be seen but sooner or later we’ll have it. So don’t be so pessimistic.