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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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wattsup

@i_ron

Hmmmmmmm. The rotor being north top south bottom is actually wasting at least half the field that is pushing outwards from the wheel and away from the stator. Think of this. Instead of being a U shape rotor, if it was an "I" shape as in the Roman Numeral 1, or like two U shapes stuck back to back, then you could have a stator on the inside as it is now, plus have one on the outside and still have those cavities. Hmmmm again.

Almost all attempts to make a magnet motor have used magnets that only apply one of their poles, the other pole is usually wasted. Two flats turning against each other wastes two poles and so on. Based on that I had posted a wheel design that took action on both polarities of a rotating center disk with non-rotating inner and outer stators, but even then two poles are wasted.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6446.msg151060#msg151060

Even coil systems suffer from the same dilemma of polarity waste, which is energy waste, but the U shape is what comes closest to full action. The I shape rotor would use more of the fields but would essentially be two U shapes.

Then there will be the question of finding the best rotor/stator angling since there is nothing that says perfectly upright positioning provides the optimal motive force. This will all be part of the discovery, only if guys can get past the the "sticky spot of skepticism" when all has already been shown. Mylow did not come here to give us all the answers. he came here to give us what he had, nothing more, nothing less and he did a damn good job of it. If that is not enough, then some should simply work on something else. I am sure there are many guys around the world that are quietly working on this as we speak.

wizkycho

Hi !

Wonderfull work and just with weak AlNiCo magnets.

Would be nice if Mylow or anyone else make an setup using plastic or wood for big round plate to see if it works
without possible eddy currents so we could have more predictably workable replications, and allso very probable use of NdFeB Mags then

This can really then give Huge ammounts of energy.

So are we done in researching field of free energy, and let orthodox science and system to supply us with further beyond prototype replications ?
Can't wait to have it at least as a toy on my non virtual desktop !

Can we now focus on antigravity research ? ;D

Wiz

Grimer

If one is designing a multifactor experiment to look a the effect of a range of variables on a particular property, the skill is to try and keep things as simple as possible by choosing the variables so as to cut out the complication of high order interactions.

It is a simple task then to add variable together to get the magnitude of an effect.

In a five factor analysis of factors A, B, C, D and E

The first order interactions are
AB AC AD AE BC BD BE CD CE DE

The second order interactions are
ABC ABD ABE ACD ACE ADE
                                 
BCD BCE BDE
                                 
CDE

The third order interactions are
ABCD ABCE ACDE BCDE

And fourth order interaction is
ABCDE

The way to get this separation and eliminate interaction is to make the factors hierarchically independent.

What does that mean for the Mylow motor.

Well Cartesian co-ordinates are completely independent. No amount of x leads to an increase in y. No amount of y leads to an increase in Z. However, if the coordinates are discrete rather than continuous then there in an interaction. If x is units, y is tens and Z is hundreds then go up five units of x and you've gone up half a unit of y, and so on.

How then are the variables of Mylo's motor hierarchically independent.

Well, for starters, the inertia of the aluminum disk is large compared to the kicks put in by the stator as groups of magnets pass underneath. Also the size of the disk is large in relation to the size of the magnet grouping and the rotor-stator gap, etc. The stator and rotor magnets are statically at right angle (though presumably not dynamically or the interaction would be zero)

This would seem to be a case where small is beautiful. Size matters but in the inverse. The natural temptation to use more powerful magnets should be resisted. The discs should be as large as possible, the magnets as small and weak as possible consistent with the motor still working, obviously. One can then gradually increase each of the variables in turn until one generates a negative interaction and the motor stops working. In this way one will map out an operating envelope for the motor and determine which combination of variables gives most power, most speed, or whatever.

Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

norman6538

I jusr check a Lowes scence drawer horseshoe magnet polarity with a compass and
surprise - its not on the flat ends as I thought it would be. Its point out and off about 45 degrees
just like the Mylow video. Check yours and see if you agree.

To me the early video showing the one way gate is the clincher.
I'm trying to get there first before I invest a bunch of money on anything.

Think about what we have

1. a vertical rotor magnet with two polarities.

2. a horizontal stator magnet with one pole approahcing the set of magnets
and another pole to follow.

What would that do? It would seem to net out to equal attract and equal repel.
But somehow it does not balance out that way.

Ponder that.

Norman

PhiScience

Mylow should put together one of these magnetizers http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/djgbk/magneto/index.html So he can re-magnetize his iron magnet in house.
The function of science is to make observations and measurements and to find correlations between the observed facts.