Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

I do believe this entire thread should be trashed as it is mostly just that.

AnandAadhar

Nevertheless, I hope you are right that this thing maybe another way is possible and that Johnson is an authentic to be trusted authority. But I have my doubts about him, we are never totally sure until we replicate namely, whatever the testimony.

Howard Johnson has done in his life what you would not even be able to dream of attaining. You are a psychologist? What a lot of bullocks.

Hans Von Lieven is a great thinker but like everyone he could be in error and I don't think he would trash Howard Johnson and Tom Bearden like you did. Is Bedini the same because according to you he should be as he supports Howard Johnson and Tom Bearden's work.

Get a life, ask your mom for a few bucks and take a bus ride. People like you .......

Sanity is slowly evaporating from this forum and if something is not done soon, we will lose great minds like many already did. Place comment like those you posted here on the "Energetic Forum" and you would get your ass kick out immediately.

I hope you will change your attitude or else get a life somewhere else.

Take care all,

Michel

[jibbguy]

Come on, Dankie, You're a smart guy and have made many posts proving that... I think you probably know very well the importance of such a finding as this would be if proved valid (and why it has gained such attention here):

It certainly isn't in the measured torque of the device; it is in proving certain widely held concepts of Physics in general and magnetism in particular "wrong". Thus forcing mainstream science to openly study them further to address the errors... Despite their "success" in completely avoiding this subject for over 30 years now.

Or perhaps... Could you please point us to a Peer-Reviewed Scientific Paper in the mainstream debunking Howard Johnson's work? I think many here would be very interested in seeing such a publication .

This is why such investigations are valuable whatever the result... Because we cannot trust them to be honestly done by the mainstream scientific community, for whatever reason. But the keys to doing "good science" would be:

> Using proper Scientific Method in doing the experiments, and leaving our preconceptions at the door.

> Accepting the results even if they do not meet our hopes or expectations.

Theories are rarely changed until clear empirical evidence forces them to be... And the only sure thing in Science is that throughout History so far, the current dogma and mainstream theories have ALWAYS been proved wrong

[lostcauses10x]

I have gone over this thing a bit. The one video with iron fileings shows us all some thing going on with his stator magnet. Poles are wrong for the thing. Easy to see.  On his taking so long to set this up may be more related to the demag of the stator magnet to such a position. One pole weak and the other strong. Yet this would go against his claim of being able to reverse it.

An interesting drawing was posted at a yahoo site.
http://www.matthewcjones.com/power/MagTrack.jpg

It does show the basics of this item. It shows the gate as a pole that has to be over come on the entrance. The push against it should be able to be seen by most. Think of his strange demag of his stator entering such, and one could see how the push against would be greatly reduced.

If this thing is working it is due to the deterioration of his stator magnet reducing the gate push against such might have some possibility. Either way the magnet and its connections shown in that video is interesting. 
The question for replicators is can you get your stator magnet to do what was shown in that video?  It is a strange effect. And if it is due to deterioration of the magnet, it is what would be different about this device I have not seen before.  It also could answers the why it takes him so long to get it to a position to run. His magnets must deteriorate to the proper position for it to work.

ahh the aspect of trying to logically answer things I would not normally even bother with, yet that one video does show a strange thing with the stator magnet.
If some one desires to transfer this message to the replication section feel free to do so.

[chrisC]

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An interesting drawing was posted at a yahoo site.
http://www.matthewcjones.com/power/MagTrack.jpg

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@lostcauses

Regarding the above referenced photo. I presume the arrangement represents a inner tube (glass) containing the single NS magnet and surrounded by the staggered 'no-air gap' inclined magnets? I have not read the context. Did this thing spin for any extended time?
Thanks for sharing.

cheers
chrisC

[lostcauses10x]

Not my drawing but is a standard rail system, I suspect it would spin if allowed to.