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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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queue

@Dixie

i paid about 80 dollars for the raw ALI.
TK is probably closer to the total price - i actually paid more than he said too. Expensive hobby ..

i had the disks cut in a machine shop where i used to work at in my youth. They let me work as favour .. but i cannot do another disk there. i used up my welcome.. lol 

For the bearing i puchased several old SVHS machines for a few dollars each and then took the bearing out. I got them @ Village des valeurs for a few dollars each .. if you try it this way - you need to take the bearing assemblies apart and remove the magnets inside other wise they will react with the magnetic fields of what you are trying to build.
The SVHS-HD models usually have more robust bearing and mounts.

You can purchase just about any bearing you can dream to own  from Motion Canada.
http://www.motionindustries.com/
They have several stores in canadian cities - 2 in Montreal and 2 in Ottawa

You can get various small used electric motors cheap at the new Mastervox Store in Longueuil.

The only rotors i know of that  might be close are from Canadian Tire
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/SpecialtyTools/MechanicsSpecialtyTools/PRD~0586808P/All-Purpose%2BMagnets.jsp

Homedepot also has several various ceramic magnet types and even soem NEOs - but you have to order the NEOs online - not available in the store.

The product pic on the website is incorrect - the measures are
2 inch by 1 inch by 3/8 thickness

They are magnetized through the 3/8 thickness. 
about 5.50 $ for two .. not cheap when you need about 40 - 50 for a disk ..

Stators i have no idea where to start ..
Maybe active electronics on Ferrier.

If you find other good rotor source let me know please.

Cheers
Q


Quote from: dixiepnum on April 30, 2009, 07:27:34 PM
@wattsup
@queue

since i think you're both near Montreal....

I'd like to draft up a simple parts list of components that should be easily found in Montreal, where to buy them, and how much they cost...I want to respect the aluminium for all components...I'm okay with it not being exactly the same size disc as mylow, but what's key is the sources for everything...if we can simplify this, then it's off to the races

so all suggestions appreciated...



-magnets by type and source, stators and rotors?
-glue by type and source?
-aluminium disc by type, size, and source?
-aluminium base and attachments, including some type of bearings etc....by type, size, and source
-parts for standing aluminium stator frame

If we can source these simply in Montreal, we can get some more replicators lined up....

Listen - I wish Mylow would follow everyone's directions but it seems the only way out of this quagmire is more replications....I'd rather do something about it than talk about it at this point....

thanks in advance for your help...

Dixie


chrisC

Quote from: queue on April 30, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
@Dixie

i paid about 80 dollars for the raw ALI.
i had the disks cut in a machine shop where i used to work at in my youth. The let me work as favour .. but i cannot do another disk there. i used up my welcome.. lol 

For the bearing i puchased several old SVHS machines for a few dollars each and then took the bearing out. I got them Village des valeurs for a few dollars each

You can purchase just about any bearing you can dream to own  from Motion Canada.
http://www.motionindustries.com/
The have several stores in canadian cities - 2 in Montreal and 2 in Ottawa

The only rotors i know of that  might be close are from Canadian Tire
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/SpecialtyTools/MechanicsSpecialtyTools/PRD~0586808P/All-Purpose%2BMagnets.jsp

The product pic on the website is incorrect - the measures are
2 inch by 1 inch by 3/8 thickness

The are magnetized through the 3/8 thickness. 
about 5.50 $ for two .. not cheap when you need about 40 - 50 for a disk ..

Stators i have no idea where to start ..
Maybe active electronics on Ferrier.

If you find other good rotor source let me know please.

Cheers
Q

@Queue. Thanks for the build info.
Even though I really don't have time, I feel I have to do my part in going to the surplus shop to pick up a smooth Ricoh scanner bearing and a Aluminium flywheel that fits perfectly in the Ricoh scanner. See pictures. I also bought some magnets from Home Depot similar to MyLow's bar magnets.

So far, I tried to get a U Shaped stator magnet to try to get it started but no cigar. Well, I really don't have a good stator stand build yet but I don't think it will work either. Plus I really don't have the time. if anyone is successful, please report your findings.

cheers
chrisC


dixiepnum

@Q

a thousand thanks for the instant collaboration

now off to work....especially on that disc and base

BEP

Quote from: queue on April 30, 2009, 10:09:55 PM

The product pic on the website is incorrect - the measures are
2 inch by 1 inch by 3/8 thickness

The are magnetized through the 3/8 thickness. 
about 5.50 $ for two .. not cheap when you need about 40 - 50 for a disk ..

Stators i have no idea where to start ..
Maybe active electronics on Ferrier.

If you find other good rotor source let me know please.


Whatever. I can read a tape. The measurements I posted are correct. I doubt an 1/8th inch means much here anyway.

Through the 3/8's thickness? Yes. Same thing I said. Six of one or half dozen of the other  :D

The ones from Lowe's are priced at $2.49 for two in a bubble pack.

As far as the rotor mag goes... No clue. The ones I've been using look the same in size and shape compared to Mylow's last vid. Polarized through the thickness  ;)

They came from a linear actuator from a robot project I retired.

The ones posted earlier said to be for wind generators look good. Other good ones would be from a small auto, lawn mower or motorcycle starter motor.