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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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Yucca

Quote from: AquariuZ on May 13, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
Just posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_KQ8tldXnY&feature=channel_page

Running with just six magnets....

The only thing that bothers me with this video is at the end, Tony is very reluctant to let go of the disk. Mylow keeps saying "you can let it go" when it is let go it seems to slowly accelerate despite the rotor mags not being close to the stator. Also throughout the vid all disk manipulations are carefully done so the hand does not leave the disk for long.  These observations could indicate a small torque bias being applied from something other than the mounted mags.

The one thing speaking against it is that the disk is stationary at the begining of the vid, but if the bias torque is very small then it may be possible with a steady hand to carefuly balance the disk on the bearings static friction. Similar to carefuly placing a toy car on a very slightly inclined plank, it will stay there, but once set in motion even very slightly it will accelerate.

I only mention it because those last words "you can let it go" repeated seemed to carry the intonation of an order to override a previous order to the contrary before the vid started, something like "don´t let the rotor go for too long while were filming", also after Tony tentatively let it go and noticed it spinning his hand rushed back in to stop it.

Of course I do hope I´m wrong, but speaking for myself I do not 100% believe... yet! I´m probably a 99% believer but my mind is desperately looking to fill that remaining 1% and so I scrutinise the vids very closely.

edit: if the disk were shipped back to the original builder and it ran for him I would 100% believe.

TinselKoala

Can you all really not see that at 7:10-7:25 when the motor is stopped by hand, it needs to be restrained from restarting, even though it is nowhere near the starting position...and Mr Hand maintains contact until it is positioned and released, when it merrily accelerates...

Try that with your disks, everybody, and see how unnatural it feels.

And then there's the matter of the Mylow Touch-- every configuration he tries, works. That is now, at least, TEN different configurations, of all different kinds of magnets, that work.


EDIT I see Yucca has noticed the same thing. This is also quite evident in the Glass Table Video at the end, where he stops the rotor, and then has to keep his hand on it while removing the stator mount, and then still has to restrain the wheel EVEN THOUGH THE STATOR MOUNT IS REMOVED, until he takes it off the base. Very unnatural.

Magluvin

Mr Hand.  I like that. 

I told Mylow he better get out the level again. And if it is level, something else is turning it. 
I dont buy it.

Hows it going Tinsel?  Just joined up.

Magluvin

AquariuZ

Quote from: broli on May 13, 2009, 08:33:04 PM
I have a hunch that you do not need the horseshoe magnets. Just replace them with bar magnets of the same width and at the same stator height and see what you get. The only one that can confirm this right now is mylow  :P .

No for some reason using bar magnets it simply fails COGs stops blub

Found the same model of horse shoe magnets in China: http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/johnsonmag/product-detailaopnfhPTBgcx/China-Horseshoe-Magnet-02-.html

Need to verify this is the exact same type first..

TinselKoala

At 7:37, Tony releases the wheel from a standstill. Then, at 8:16, he says "Two minutes and Eight seconds...it takes 4 or 5 minutes to reach equilibrium speed" and Mylow agrees.

BUT the motor was released from a standstill only 39 seconds before, and it is already at "equilibrium speed".

They can't tell their improvisations and ad-libs from their script.

What's that little double click in the soundtrack, right before the end, right before Mylow tells Tony to let it go, several times, while Tony is reluctant to do so....