Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[RunningBare]

The trouble is you are pointing these folk at science, some have already shown they balk at science, the very fact they have an iPod, some cool gadgets and a computer they can type into this forum with is down to science does not compute with them.

Conversely, not being able to duplicate a fake does not make the fake less so. That is the whole point of avoiding these kinds of pissing contests and get verification, corroboration and replication. Science must be repeatable or it is useless for any meaningful deployment.

[lumen]

Every time someone shows a new magnetic motor it is immediately considered fake, and with good cause, because it is impossible!
So for all those that jump on it right away and say it's fake are only stating what everyone already knows, but this some how gives them some points or something, other wise why would they do it.

I have not built a Mylow motor even though I have all the CNC machines, all the materials except the exact magnets and even the time to do it. I simply was not convinced to that point but I have considered the theory of why it could work and am making a test device to examine my theory of why the Mylow motor works.

It may not actually have anything to do with the operation of his motor, but it brought an idea to light and that's good enough for me even if his does not even run.

Why? Because if it don't work then my new concept might, and if his does work then I may already have a method to improve it.

Finding out how he is faking it just does not help in my case, even if it help in yours!

[Hoppy]

No, I'm not...

I've claimed I'm on the fence and I've claimed you and the other sceptics are doing a hell of a lot of pointless gum flapping and I can prove that you're all doing a lot of pointless gum flapping and you've not produced a string of videos because your gum flapping is in this thread and the videos don't exist.  I can also prove I'm on the fence because I'm sat here... Waiting.

If you want people to believe it's fake, and I can see no other reason that you and the other sceptics would be so intent on slagging this guy off, then prove it's a fake by faking it and reproducing the string of videos Mylow has created. I'm not paying for you to do that just like I didn't pay Mylow... Not my problem.


It's like a kid standing in front of a magician telling all the other kids the trick is a fake and the magician is sat there safe in the knowledge that even though the kid is right he's never going to be able to prove it to the other kids because he can't do the trick so he's always going to be able to say it's magic and have the majority of them think it's magic... Don't read more in to this than I intend, I'm not saying we're all kids and he's whatever, it's just an analogy to try and get my point across and I know it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.


Bobbotov, I completely agree with you in that it proves it can be faked, not that it is a fake but I'm saying that for me (and possibly a lot of other people on the fence) that it would be enough to tip me over.

Just like a kid watching a magician if another kid showed me the exact same trick I'm not going to believe it's magic and the magician would be just another bloke in a funny hat.

I'm certainly not 'slagging off' Mylow. Even if it were proved beyond doubt that he faked it, I would still give him credit for doing a convincing job. Anyone who places a video, let alone a series of videos, in the public domain claiming a working magnet motor should expect to receive a considerable level of interest and questioning, especially when it is also reported that MIB have been brought in!

It is as valid trying to disprove a claim as it is trying to verifying one and not disrespectful to the person making the claim. If Mylow really has succeeded then the truth will eventually be revealed despite the utterings of the naysayers and believers.

Hoppy

[Yucca]

The trouble is you are pointing these folk at science, some have already shown they balk at science, the very fact they have an iPod, some cool gadgets and a computer they can type into this forum with is down to science does not compute with them.

I agree, those types should really bash their computers with rocks until dysfunctional and then proceed with smoke signals for longer distance communication, if they can light a fire that is, they'll probably say fire is the work of the devil and not natural. Heck if you take their idealism to the extreme then we should all gouge our eyes out with sticks, after all logical and real observation can mislead, we must fly on beliefs and gut feelings alone lol.

[RunningBare]

I have to agree with you to a point, but the problem is the wasted time and resources, lets say for a moment that Mylow is real, then by jeebus nothing is wasted, it would be fantastic, but turn it around to a fake and you have a lot of waste on your hands.
Now some of these people do replication in their spare time,I do, they will argue it's their time and resource to waste which is fair enough, but when wasted on a potential fake it becomes more serious, before I attempt any replication I need to see some credibility, so far because Mylow has refused or given some reason not to have third party validation then he has no credibility.

It is as valid to trying to disprove a claim as it is trying to verifying one and not disrespectful to the person making the claim. If Mylow really has succeeded then the truth will eventually be revealed despite the utterings of the naysayers and believers.

Hoppy