Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[markdansie]

just because Myow got caught out dosnt mean the Howard was. I believe Howard has contributed a lot to understanding magnets, magnetic switching etc.
As for Mylow...all credability is lost. Nothing is to be believed...he deliberetly misled everyone including all those replicators.
They are still trying to put a spin on it at the Mylow-Yahoo groups.
No replications
No third party validations
And strong evidence that he misled everyone in some if not all his video's
This sad story is over.
The funny thing is I am still being punished by not being allowed to post on the NEC, which I have belonged to for years.
Mark

[CLaNZeR]

Ummmm seems my messages on the Mylow Yahoo Group are now moderated and have to be approved, so will post here.



--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> wrote:
>
>The thing that makes me question that conclusion is the pendulum effect he shows in the May 13 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIT9yV2SWUs  No one seems to have been able to replicate that one -- directly under the stator -- and once that is achieved, the key has been found.  I tend to think that is a truism.
>

Hi Sterling

The Pendulum effect is common in most Magnet Motor Designs what opposite poles are towards each other.

With the spacing of Mylows Stators and the spacing of the magnets he got this effect. It can be done.

I demonstrated this in one of my videos quickly using some blocks at around 4:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHAK8aQ6tSg

Whether the first Rig Mylow showed was genuine, I do not know.
I like to think I keep an open mind but Mylow has lost all trust by faking the last set of Rigs, so even if the first ones were for real, then he will have to do a lot to convince anyone.

Cheers

Sean.

[Giga]

Well so far even after Mylow stateing his self he faked it.
seems like Overunity was Just out to prove some one wrong and not intrested in keeping with the Howard Johnson idea.

would be nice to hear members of Overunity.com saying they are going to get this thing going...
but instead all i hear is Jokes wise cracks and bashing of other researchs. Over all Sterling , Mylow and other Magnet motor inventors should be Proude of what they did....
Not only did they Open others to the idea that Magnet power is out there "Like me" but it can become usefull i want to thank Howard johnson and evertone that ever tryed making this invetion.

i will keep a look out for the NEXT mylow and it was fun.
good bye
your friend
GIGA
90/94 inc
www.Paseoradio.com

[CLaNZeR]

At least Mylows Twin brother has the balls to admit it was a fake to Sterling.

Not sure if I am buying the first one (Stonehenge) still being genuine though.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mylow_magmo/message/1457

From Tony to Sterling

do not send me any more emails regarding mylow motors
i will not answer any questions or make comments
nor will i call you and do not call me at my cell.
this has been very difficult for me and my brother.
the only thing i will say is that the originals where real and
my brother was told not to post anymore (real) motors.
that is it for me i will not accept anymore emails from you or anyothers

[AquariuZ]

I did take some key measurements and can now confirm LightRiders graphs. No large deviations in what I measured myself.

What I did was count the number of times a set of rotor magnets passes the stator magnet during a fixed period of time and the data pretty much matches the graph.

Time versus passes
01:30 - 02:00 (60)
03:00 - 03:25 (44)
04:00 - 04:25 (50)
05:00 - 05:25 (47)
06:00 - 06:25 (37)
07:00 - 07:25 (31)

Because there is NO hand in the video anywhere to be seen and the device is in plain view all the time, I must conclude that the behaviour of the rotor is not as expected (well depends on your point of view).

Why the clear deceleration starting at 04:30? Is the Alinco stator magnet degaussing? Did it reach a saturation point where it is no longer strong enough to sustain the motion?

To be sure I asked mister Sennheiser. Mister Sennheiser is my headset and you cannot fool him. So, audio analysis.

Downloading the HD version here: http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt=18&video_id=ocZ6y0o3Nkk&t=vjVQa1PpcFMcAHZDHN4DBuP6C5zb1yh8LaDPfT8pgTA=

And created a SVCD version which I could play on my DVD player routed through my stereo and Mr. S.

Very loud, with some Dolby filters to block the static.

From the get go the first you hear is a monotone ticking sound, almost like a clock. To determine if this noise is related to the setup I tried to extrapolate the sound to the acceleration curve.

There is a relation.

The ticking sound is weakened at the bottom of the acceleration curves, and starts back again when the deceleration curves start. That´s just too much of a coincidence.

I am going to assign the weakening of the background tick as "Circuit on" and the noise turning back to normal levels to "Circuit off".

00:12 Strange noise (cannot determine exactly)
00:16 Circuit on
00:27 Circuit off
00:38 Circuit on
00:48 Circuit off
01:22 Circuit on
01:41 Circuit off
02:17 Circuit on
02:45 Circuit off
03:20 Circuit on
03:39 Circuit off
04:09 Circuit on
04:30 Circuit off
04:38 Mylow starts talking "last video"

The ticking noise is most likely the assisting motor (off) turning with the rotor.

So, there you have it, I was wrong.

Surely you cannot blame me for verifying though.

There are still a few open questions though:

Why the personality change
Why the NSA visit (Congress remember)
Why the setup change
Why the latter clear fake

...and the big one

If fake from the start, WHY?

He clearly respects Howard Johnson and holds him in high regard, or is that fake too?

Why smear HJ´s name in such a way by faking his idea? Strange.

I am still looking into Stonehenge regardless, but let me be clear:

41b (last video of the original setup) IS WITHOUT A DOUBT A FAKE.

So what about #6 (first video of original setup running) then?
http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt=18&video_id=hpQA5c9guvE&t=vjVQa1PpcFOpZnRUDkHo1Tgg0Pr7b2ZdGAqu6KCqdYQ=

Let´s find out, same treatment, no acceleration graph available though.

Audio analysis of #6:

00:00 - 02:15 a very loud Mylow not much else, a strange oscillating sound can be heard throughout the video, may be the camera, but only if it uses analog storage.
02:16 the stator is set in place and the setup starts
02:46 acceleration - strange oscillating sound does not change (sounds like a fan bearing)
03:26 the full setup is shown - an acceleration analysis could be possible
04:48 device is stopped by pushing the stator holder against the disc. Oscillating sound does not change. I conclude the oscillating sound in the background is not part of the setup.
05:40 device is started again
06:20 full device is shown - acceleration analysis could be done again
06:52 device is stopped
08:46 device is started
09:03 another speed analysis opportunity

The moment he uses the zoom function can be clearly identified by a click, which is his finger landing on the zoom button.

My conclusion, there is no ticking sound as observed in 41b. Also, he uses his black stator magnet in #6 and uses a red Alinco stator magnet in #41b. Why? Is it possible he is already "under the influence" in #41b?. Maybe not. What is a fact 41b is the last video of the old setup, and it is now proven a fake.

In #6 there is no sound change when the device is running or stopped.

Conclusion: because the camera is not zoomed out all the time it is impossible to tell if his hand was used for the acceleration. It should be easy to determine if an outside force was used to turn the disc by doing an acceleration graph of the sections where the device is in full view. From the audio I would say this video is genuine. We definitly need a acceleration analysis to prove the setup false or true in this case. It spins too fast for me to count the rotor magnets passing the stator magnet, so...

LightRider, could you please assist with #6 so we can put this to rest once and for all?


If you are able to show deceleration of the disc in #6 while his hand is away from the wheel then there it is. Fake. If not... Well then maybe Tony´s SMS is not that strange after all.

AZ