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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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AquariuZ

Quote from: fat-lady on May 20, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
STOP STERLING SELLING
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/store/MylowMagnetMotor_plans/index.html#Purchase

Watts up wake up

Why? It seems that Wattsup is wide awake.

I wish the majority in here would wake up to the real scam.

RunningBare

Seriously, are you on something?, plans have already been sold, does not matter if they are not selling now, they were being sold before the fake videos were uncovered, so the plans are out there, the MiB have done a very poor job on this one.

Quote from: AquariuZ on May 20, 2009, 05:01:28 PM
The damage is done, who in their right minds will buy anything related to Mylow now?

"Hi this is Man in Black, can I speak to Mr Allen please?"
-This is Sterling Allen
"Ah yes, mister Allen, about the products you are selling on your website,.."

The situation contains itself. Now if they just could stop AquariuZ from posting....

Open to offers, PM me. Nothing under a million Euro in an offshore account please.

TinselKoala

Quote from: fat-lady on May 20, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
STOP STERLING SELLING
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/store/MylowMagnetMotor_plans/index.html#Purchase

Watts up wake up

Golly that's a funny list. Sterling's bulleted points are almost all either wrong or just his opinion.

"Why I Believe This is Real

On April 7, 2009, Sterling wrote:

In answer to those who have criticized me for selling plans (an adjunct to what is available for free from our open source pages) even before Mylow's motor has been replicated by someone else, here are the reasons why I believe this thing, starting with the most important to least.

    * I've long believed in the possibility of an all-magnet motor being able to provide base-load power. It is not perpetual motion. It is harnessing some new aspect of magnetism that hasn't yet been appreciated by science, but will.

TK: That's your belief. That's all.

    * Howard Johnson was required to have a working model in order to get a patent from USPTO. He has three patents.

TK: Wrong. He never provided a working model of his rotary device to get his patents. He demonstrated a linear SMOT that did not close the loop.
   
* Mylow's design is very close to Howard Johnson's Stonehenge model.

TK: Which one of Mylow's 11 working configurations do you mean here? Most of them are nothing like HJ's stonehenge design.

    * The myriad of videos Mylow posted are very convincing, showing acceleration followed by maintenance of an equilibrium speed, accompanied by very gradual slowing due to magnet depletion. Though not skeptic proof, the videos do reveal a lot and correlate with what Mylow has been telling us verbally.

TK: No, you are wrong here too. It has been shown that the early vids are hand-driven and the later vids are driven by fishing line. The magnet depletion is Mylow's report and there has been no corroboration.

    * The movement of the motor as shown in Mylow's videos is consistent with what I would expect from a magnet motor.

TK: I don't know what you expect, but analysis shows that the movement is consistent with external drive.

    * The audio elements in the videos are consistent with what is happening visually, and with what I've heard over the phone as we've talked.

TK: Wrong again. Listen to the audio, for example, in the Tony video, and do your own motor timing.

    * The partial replications that I've seen, exhibit similar (though not complete) movement to what is shown in Mylow's videos.

TK: Here I will agree. Especially the ones done by Mr Hand.

    * Al Witherspoon said he saw Howard Johnson's motor running in 1978, and has been a friend/neighbors/business associate with HJ until he passed away last year. He is convinced Mylow's motor is for real.

TK: Good for Al. I saw a UFO once, hovering in 1978. Prove me wrong.
But ask what evidence I have for my claim.

    * The level of skill required to pull off a hoax are far beyond what Mylow possesses, whether it be embedding hidden motors or induction or video editing or other means of giving the appearance that shows up in his videos. The background, between the lines, things that I've been able to pick up while talking to Mylow by phone have been consistent with what he has been telling me. He lives in an apartment, drives truck hauling things around Chicago, works near his residence, has a wife and twin brother, etc. These are not aspects that would be present if he had the level of skill required to fake all of this. And what would be his motive? He's not ever asked for money.

TK: Between the lines? Do you know more than you are sharing Sterling?  Regardless as matters stand this statement is clearly wrong. And a possible motive that accounts for much is that Mylow wants to be Shiloh and obtain the Johnson legacy.

    * Mylow has never once exhibited even the tiniest interest in getting money from this. It has been hard for me to even broach the subject with him. With many inventors, and certainly fraudsters, that's the first thing on their mind: money.

TK: That's two for you. But remember, for example, the business model of things like Google or Netscape--give it away free until you are hooked, then start shoveling the ads and etc.

    * The magnets deplete (I'm hopeful that a configuration can be found that doesn't result in depletion, e.g. neodymium magnets in a plastic assembly)

TK: According to Mylow. Any outside corroboration? And, is that so unusual from alnicos moving past each other in repulsion?

    * The stator magnet gets cold, which is what others have predicted and observed in related modeling.

TK: Says Mylow. Has anybody but me actually MEASURED the temperature of their stator(s)? Not that I am aware. Has anyone actually noticed the huge DRAFT that the wheel creates when running at speed? Not that I am aware. Modeling? What are the assumptions of the model; does it assume the energy must be coming from the magnets?

    * History often shows that the weak and simple confound the mighty. New wine can't be put into old bottles. The establishment is too stick on themselves. The recent MIB incident is part of this transition phenomenon -- the old guard fighting the new thing that will make them obsolete.

TK: MIB incident. No proof, awfully convenient for Mylow. Incredible laxness on the part of the MIB. I think we need a new crew of MIBs if they are this incompetent.

    * With the old guard in the middle of tearing down the economy to establish their world dictatorship, the timing is right for the emergence of a revolutionary, empowering technology like this.

TK: Eliminate the last two words.

    * More, this is a partial list.

TK: Anything to add now, Sterling?

     I think that is a very good list of reasons to believe in Mylow's claims and support the open sourcing of this design, and prepare some clear plans for those who want things distilled better than what is available for free on our site.

Purchase Mylow Magnet Motor Manual

TK: One sentence says Open Sourcing and the next sentence sells the plans, for what you have strongly implied is a working magnet motor. How can one mind hold those two contradictory thoughts in such close proximity?


Sterling should spend some time cleaning up his pages, to get rid of the obvious garbage.

nyctuber

Quote from: AquariuZ on May 20, 2009, 03:45:50 PM

High res video #6 on LRCan1´s channel: (Stator N-S towards rim)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQA5c9guvE&fmt=18


3:53 - 4:01, you can see the monofilament line to the left of the particleboard stator mount. First two lines, then one as he zooms in. They're fuzzy b/c it's not the original video (youtube converts to flash) but they are 100% there. Stonehenge model debunked.

AquariuZ

Quote from: RunningBare on May 20, 2009, 05:07:43 PM
Seriously, are you on something?, plans have already been sold, does not matter if they are not selling now, they were being sold before the fake videos were uncovered, so the plans are out there, the MiB have done a very poor job on this one.

Yes I am onto something.

If you were like one of the individuals who bought the plans (like fat-lady there) would you start replicating at this point?

No you would post flaming material towards Sterling because he took your money.

Quod erat demonstrandum

You know, Wattsup made me think naughty thoughts.

What if there were a way to prove if someone in here is on a payroll? Without braking too many laws that is? Watssup, can you get me access to the OU server for about an hour please?

;D

Here a song while I traceback suspect IP connections:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iyohlCi4iE