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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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RunningBare

Before we get our wires crossed with hypothetical situations, I would not take video 6 alone as evidence before a judge, I would however put it before a jury and let them decide, if they decide not enough evidence I would accept it, in my own opinion there is not enough evidence for video 6 alone, but I am not the only one able to see that line.

Quote from: Psyclone on May 23, 2009, 11:28:52 AM

In fact, I happen to believe that there was trickery involved in vid #6 as well - particularly in light of all the other evidence from other vids (ie. his S.O.P.).  The question/observation I'm trying to address here is whether vid #6 - on it's own - has convincing evidence, one way or the other.  And my opinion at this point is that it does not.

nyctuber

Quote from: lostcauses10x on May 23, 2009, 11:39:35 AM
On both sides of this situation there exists preconceived ideas.  Belief if you will.
The play on such has been the major drive of magicians, and in the OU Fe world con men and just folks thinking they can get others to solve what they see as the problem.

All the old names in this game Keely Bessler (speeling) etc; generated the idea of reality to such claimed.

Yet so far no valid (verifiable) verification of reproduction of claims has been achieved, yet folks still look and hope for such. (Me included in that group).

I can and have fooled myself into beliveing, Whip mag being the latest: yet still have not seen any verifiable proof of such.

The magnet motor game has always been around with man since they first found load stone and really started observing the reactions of such.  Yet still today there is NO validated working Permanent magnet motor, despite claims other wise. 
Yet here is folks still looking into and trying to replicate what is claimed from the past, through today with an almost absolute belief it is real.

LOL I play with this stuff, not because I believe it will not work, but in hopes it will.
Yet my experiencing  such is: it is not real.
I no longer just dive into any claim. If I can not see a reason such might work (Usual fooling myself in this) I do not attempt replication.

Folks should always look with what is the magician show today.  How is he really doing it instead of what they claim.  Is it real or is it a trick. In the FE OU world such is done 99% of the time.  Folks who believe in such FE and OU. Do not let the magicians fool you.   

I hope this saga of mylow the magician will teach some folks just to be more careful in believing everything they hear and see.

From what I can tell this would have been the best motivation for the whole show.


Good observations. What threw everyone about Mylow is, he's not exactly a con man. He's a 44 year old guy living out a fantasy. I'd say what we saw was a mid-life crisis. Some men buy Corvettes, Mylow built a magnet motor from childhood and basked in his 15 minutes of fame before the jig was up.

RunningBare

Oh, and to be fair, the jury must not have prior knowledge of all the other events, they must not even know the source or events surrounding it.

lostcauses10x

Oh and the idea of some of it is real (not all fake) is due to folks do not like admitting they were fooled into believing the claim. Some personalitys will not allow such.
It is also a normal thing also.

lostcauses10x

Can I give the jury a basic lesson in science?? LOL
Quote from: RunningBare on May 23, 2009, 11:48:18 AM
Oh, and to be fair, the jury must not have prior knowledge of all the other events, they must not even know the source or events surrounding it.