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Dissociation of the Water Molecule

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WilbyInebriated

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May 12, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: newbie123 on May 12, 2009, 08:00:46 PM
Over Faraday gas measurements are just calculation errors (Every one I've seen, at least) ..    I've actually looked into this... And the series cells, i.e. Bob Boyce 101, will appear to get more gas out per current, when they're really not (it's sort of an illusion)...  But I don't want to get into the details in this thread.
will you get into the details in a new thread? i can start one for you if you don't know how. i would love to hear these details, i would like to see your math on the calculation errors too.  ;)
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newbie123

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May 12, 2009, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 12, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
will you get into the details in a new thread? i can start one for you if you don't know how. i would love to hear these details, i would like to see your math on the calculation errors too.  ;)
Sounds good.  Give me some over Faraday examples, measured on series cells.
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

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May 12, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: newbie123 on May 12, 2009, 08:18:22 PM
     Sounds good.  Give me some over Faraday examples, measured on series cells.

no no, pay attention now...
YOU SAID "Over Faraday gas measurements are just calculation errors (Every one I've seen, at least) .. "
you've seen them... you infer you did the math to come to the conclusion they are errors... this was ONE POST AGO, DON'T PLAY STUPID LIKE I AM SUPPOSED TO SUPPLY YOU WITH THEM.

YOU THEN SAID "Bob Boyce 101, will appear to get more gas out per current, when they're really not (it's sort of an illusion)...  But I don't want to get into the details in this thread."

those are the details i am talking about...

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newbie123

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May 12, 2009, 08:43:09 PM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on May 12, 2009, 08:24:24 PM
no no, pay attention now...
YOU SAID "Over Faraday gas measurements are just calculation errors (Every one I've seen, at least) .. "
you've seen them... you infer you did the math to come to the conclusion they are errors... this was ONE POST AGO, DON'T PLAY STUPID LIKE I AM SUPPOSED TO SUPPLY YOU WITH THEM.

YOU THEN SAID "Bob Boyce 101, will appear to get more gas out per current, when they're really not (it's sort of an illusion)...  But I don't want to get into the details in this thread."
those are the details i am talking about...

Being rude won't get us anywhere...

I haven't seen any efficiency measurements in a while, so I was hoping you could supply a link... 

But, in a nutshell it comes down to:

1.) People overlook the temperature of their cells while  calculating energy efficiency (important factor) ... Among other things,  heat creates steam, which can give the appearance of hydroxy gas production .     And..

2.) People don't understand that Faraday efficiency is "current efficiency" and nothing to do with voltage.  And BB cells give the appearance of only 5 amps doing work when it's actually more (each cell chops the voltage down, but still has the amps).

PM me or start a new thread  if you want to know more,  or prove me wrong.. . Maybe I have a misunderstanding.


Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

WilbyInebriated

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May 12, 2009, 08:58:22 PM
Quote from: newbie123 on May 12, 2009, 08:43:09 PM
 

Being rude won't get you anywhere...

I haven't seen any efficiency measurements in a while, so I was hoping you could supply a link... 

But, in a nutshell it comes down to:

1.) People overlook the temperature of their cells while  calculating energy efficiency (important factor) ... Among other things, steam can give the appearance of hydroxy gas production .     And..

2.) People don't understand that Faraday efficiency is "current efficiency" and nothing to do with voltage.  And BB cells give the appearance of only 5 amps doing work when it's actually more (each cell chops the voltage down).

PM me or start a new thread  if you want to know more,  or prove me wrong.. . Maybe I have a misunderstanding.

asking you for your data twice isn't being rude. you're the one who is still avoiding the 2 simple questions posed to you. which could be considered to be rude...
re: "haven't seen any efficiency measurements in awhile"
you didn't keep your math?  ::)

in a nutshell it comes down to:
1) do you, or do you not, have your math that shows the over faraday measurements that you claimed to have seen were, in actuality, erroneous?
2) do you, or do you not have details about the efficiency of the boyce101 to add to this thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7453.msg177980#msg177980 i created for you to "get into the details"?

i really don't think you have either, but there's your thread to prove me wrong.
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