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Resonnant circuits in cascade.

Started by Robert, January 27, 2006, 09:22:47 PM

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thrival

IcyBlue; you said:
QuoteBut even if the reactance of the L/C combination would go close to zero - what it hardly does - you are still left with the ohmic resistance  that burns your energy and damps the circuit - in addition to the energy that is lost and is radiated off the circuit. Even if you use a negative *differential* resistance element (tunnel diode, gas discharge) to undamp the circuit, the oscillation will only be sustained as long as you provide the supply voltage to it. Shut down the supply, and the oscillation will stop. If the circuit would draw energy from somewhere else - as OU circuits are supposed to do so - the oscillation would continue.

We have no intention of shutting down the supply. The circuit DOES draw energy from outside itself, via secondary inductors.
Think of an inductor as an infinitely variable flywheel. Now a parallel resonant tank doesn't produce FE per se; it is only manifesting
an alternating "springyness" between its two components. Those high currents at source voltage are only what might be called
artificial or 'virtuall power' because like you said, as soon as the source signal is removed, the oscillations die out.

But the same high currents in the resonant tank can be used to creat REAL power by INDUCING a correspondingly large field in a
secondary coil. The secondary sucks energy in from the ether (flywheel effect); that's what a tesla coil is and does. Do you deny that?
Certainly the increase in power doesn't solely derive from the primary tank. Do you think tesla was shooting lightening bolts from his
Colorado springs tower, using nothing but what he input? Tesla coil builders know better. Yes, resonant tanks can be used to amplify
power. I would advise you study exactly what a tesla coil is and does. They are deceptively simple. Anyway the increase is more than
we started with-- FE. So the same principle can be used to build resonant tank circuits that "spill over" into further stages, as Henry
Moray did. I'm tired of people making this so esoteric. Mathematical models don't always reflect reality, at least not until they
include enough factors to model reality accurately. If we have a prejudice against the very thing we hope to prove, well that's an
emotional problem that could keep us from ever getting there. It's no true representation of reality per se.

The methernitha testatika is well documented. Beyond the spinning and the static, it does seem to amplify power somehow. I assert
that occurs in resonant stages.

What's the point of posting a link for resonant heating? I mean who doesn't know that coils get hot at high amps in the khz range.
Heating effects aren't the objective. Even the utilities seem to've found a way around the heat problem, but resonance will
occasionally fry a transformer. That's why it's a problem for them. What it reveals is that resonance releases a tremendous amount
of energy! They're not looking to exploit, but suppress it.

$1 million isn't enough if it gets you killed, which seems to happen to a lot of OU types. Free energy puts not just millions, but
billions of fortunes, at risk. Last year Exxon made more profits than 125 countries. Please quit with the superficial
understandings.

Elvis Oswald

On the subject of Tesla coils... personally I think that solid-state coils are a pretty toy.  Can they duplicate what a spark-gap coil can do?  Maybe... but first, I think it wise to duplicate what Tesla did with what he used. :)

What Tesla did was to oscillate energy to amplify it.  He discharged high voltage into the earth, where it bounced off the other side of the globe and returned to his coil.  He had calculated and correctly predicted the time it would take to do that... and the energy that would be left after the trip.  This residual power (X-loss) was then added to another (X) at every cycle.
This power bounced between the top of his tower and the other side of the earth... and his lightning bolts got bigger and bigger.  This is how he set the record for man-made lightning.

But he was using free electricity from the local power station... until he fried their generators with this experiment.

Now this is much the same as a voltage doubler on a microwave oven.  And I guess it is not such an amazing thing... since you are only saving energy until it gets to the size you need.

But, when you consider that there is a potential between an antenna and a ground... then you see that this "stray voltage" that ham radio operators see as an annoyance.... what most people laugh at and say,"what can you do with such low power?"   You might see that this can be used for real work.

I do realize that low power is still low power... and if the rate of consumption is high... then you will quickly use stored energy... leaving you with only a low power source.
But how much power can you get from an antenna and a ground?
This is where the resonance comes into play.

Yes you can suck power from a broadcast signal.  So why not use the 7.43Hz wave that is bouncing around the resonating cavity of the atmosphere?  It's obvious that this paticular frequency contains tremendous power.

And yes - I will be experimentinig.  But it is better to consider all factors and start with a very good experiment, than to run off with half an idea and waste time and money and get discouraged.

I do not claim to have the answer (yet) - I am just collecting facts and discussing them.  Maybe someone has insight that I had not considered.






thrival

Elvis,

Just input your signal into a cascade of three resonant parallel tanks,
coupled via secondary windings, each stage more robust to handle
the power increase. The last stage resonant coil can couple to a
final secondary, leads to which you attach your load. Don't ground
anything but your antennae. Tesla built circuits like this.

Elvis Oswald

That sounds like a plan.  Now I just have to settle on an antenna design.  :)

thrival

Elvis:

Thought you might find this handy; from

http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_6_8_10.html

You might want to start with the higher frequencies
(which contain more energy) and tune additional
stages to lower harmonics, stepping the frequency
down while extracting the power. A diode in your
antennae, containing a mix of conductive metal and
phosphor powder from an old CRT, might have
some interesting effects.