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Resonnant circuits in cascade.

Started by Robert, January 27, 2006, 09:22:47 PM

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thrival

So in other words, Tesla coils aren't simply lightening machine oddities, they are transmitters and receivers
of electrical power! And the receiver receives up to 5X more than the sender put in! I wonder how
many receivers that would apply to? I guess that also means that, assuming the utility companies aren't
cooperative, a person could have two coils on their property, and produce 5X the input.

Here's a thought: what if our parallel resonant cascades are never loaded, but simply drive a tesla coil
transmitter. You get the gain from each resonant stage (orders of magnitude per stage), X5 at the
receiver. (Most Tesla coil schematics I've seen on the web are series-resonant towers driven by parallel-
resonant tanks.)  So the nut is cracked, the horse is out of the barn. Whoever denies free energy doesn't
read very good.

http://www.rhfweb.com/Scalarwaveskgood1.pdf

Elvis Oswald

Tesla reported that his coil radiated 'something' that would create current in a receiver.  But who would believe a crackpot like Tesla, eh?

Actually I have been studying and a series LC circuit operating in resonance with it's source would not produce current in the coil - and therefore not produce a magnetic field in the core and therefore would not transfer power to a secondary coil to power a load.  And a parallel LC in resonance with the source would tend to use all available current to power a secondary load.  Even if the source voltage were free... it would have to be enough to power a load.
But tesla did it... or so the reports say.  I would like to find the articles that ran in newspapers stating that he was using "black magic" to power the car.

So I still think that somehow it is possible.  And in the car, he used tubes.  But I have no clue about tubes... so I am studying. :)

But - you are absolutely right about the Tesla coil.  A spark gap type coil is what he used... and I have wondered if the new solid state coils would even produce the same effect.  Meyl seems to be convinced that his works.

Tesla used a spark gap - and used a disruptive discharge.  Under 100ms he began to see these strange anomalies.  One of them was a cooling effect.  This points directly to what I believe was happening.  He was creating "streamers" from the gap.  Not streamers like the sparks that one sees from the top of the coil... but streamers like the ionized air streamers that lightning fills when they reach the ground.
When it's hot outside and a thunderstorm rolls in - you can feel this cooling effect then.

This ionized air or "cold electricity" rolled up his coil like a smoke-ring.  He was able to step-up voltage 10,000 times per foot of coil... just using the "kick" that comes from disruptive discharge.
This is the same "kick" that Steven Marks is claiming to use...
AND Gray said that he figured out the secret from the way lightning works.

But I am sure that the hecklers know more about it than Tesla... or Meyl.  :)

magnetoelastic

Quote from: Elvis Oswald on February 28, 2006, 11:54:07 AM
Obviously there's something missing.  Unless you can explain how a 100 lb man can lift rocks weighing 20 tons overnight alone without equipment...  Wanna take a guess? 

Yeah, I saw it on an episode of 'Smallville' last night...  Too bad more of us weren't born on Krypton.

thrival

Elvis:

You said:
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Actually I have been studying and a paralell LC circuit operating in resonance with it's source would nit produce current in the coil - and therefore not produce a magnetic field in the core and therefore would not transfer power to a secondary coil to power a load.  And a series LC in resonance with the source would tend to use all available current to power a secondary load.  Even if the source voltage were free... it would have to be enough to power a load.

Better keep studying a lot more. Sounds like you're reading the wrong info. Parallel resonant circuits develop circulating currents "orders
of magnitude" greater than input which also raises the voltage. Of course that translates into a magnetic field that can be picked
up by a secondary. What but V/I in a coil do you think creates fields in the first place??? Sounds like you've not the electricity back-
ground to make an informed remark.

Tesla coils are series-resonant towers driven by parallel resonant tanks. True some have spark gaps and those are richer in harmonics
(which goes back to ferroresonance gains I mentioned earlier) but harmonics aren't essential for resonance gains which happen anyway
at the tuned frequency.

Also in Tesla's magnifying transmitter (Meyl link posted) the coupling between transmitter and receiver is actually a combination
of both series and parallel resonant tank. The gain without input cascades, is 5X the input. If you count the parallel-resonant driver
and the series-parallel resonant coupling, that's two stages. The receiver makes 3 stages. So yes there's a gain and it happened
through resonant stages. What do you mean Meyl "believes," Elvis. You're free to reproduce his experiment and he'll sell you the
kit.

magnetoelastic: . Why do you waste your particle of attention on this forum, given your inability to learn anything?

Elvis Oswald

I had the lc circuits backwards... actually.

The parallel would reach close to infinite impedance - and that would mean high current.  So yes this would couple with a secondary coil.

The series LC would be close to zero impedance... and that would mean it would pull no current in a perfect world.  No current = no inductance, right?

And yes, I realize that experimenting is the only way to find out what the anomalies are for both series and parallel LC circuits when resonating with the source.  :)

I mentioned the sparkgap coil - because that is what Tesla used.  :)