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One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

Started by jonnydavro, March 28, 2009, 04:21:55 PM

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gadgetmall

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on June 23, 2009, 10:27:34 PM
@Gadgetmall:

Are you actually using different components than those in Jonnydavros circuit?
I just had the idea you might be using a germanium transistor or something like that to have the magnet spinning at 1mA. Or some kind of tank circuit.
You see my lowest amperage under which the magnet stops rotating is like 3 mA and that is with all resistances set to zero, or maybe your coil is indeed somehow different.
I d like to find a way to speed the magnet up and still run at low amperage and you said you even consider the rotation to be extremely fast.
I am using two pots one resistor a coil from a 110 volt relay a tip3055 transistor and this particular coil is the secret . i originally wound the coil you see on a 1/4 piece of pvc pipe with two cut out circles of Lucite for the ends of the coil . i only wound one wire . 500 feet of # 24 / i was using this coil as a pickup coil only on a rotor bedini . Well i wound just 350 turns around that coil the other night and used it for a trigger . The egg magnet wobbles and spins SLOW but the output is fed in to two 50 volt caps in series on the output side of the circuit  so it charges up very quick to over 100 volts fast . i t is running on 2 nimh batterys .I have tried 12 volts and did not get the magnet to spin any faster .the reason is there is like only two tiny layers of trigger on that big spool of wire . the distance of the trigger coil is about the length of the egg magnet so it like to wobble right on the edge of that trigger wire . look the green is the original 500 feet and the red is 350 turns . Its a limited trigger area. and its spinning with no noticeable drop running it for over two days and playing with different magnets . i run it all night and day . so far so good . Its spins a few satellite good but slow .I set a pot on each leg of the relay coil and the resistor is at the base .i could only get it to wobble spin on one side of this coil but it is steady and i have a cone of silence on it now :) Now i was playing with that big sphere neo  and it will spin fast on the edge of the red and green but it spins so fast it eventually starts to dig in and run away . i am sure the current draw is high with it spinning so fast .I even tried oil on the bowl but i think i saw smoke and it eventually burns it away and then fires off the bowl like a buck shot from hell ! the Egg on this one is a jewel .It purrrrs with its slow wobble . I am making another one and leaving this one to do its thing . i will probably mount the electronics and coil in a nice container and let it run as is and charge away . I will work on that swapper circuit of mine with the 555 timer and make it flop two sets of batteries . My next coil will be made just for this project . 4 wires litz .
Gadget
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Pirate88179

Jonny:

Thanks for the tips and the advice.  Once I removed the core, I tried a small neo sphere, about 1/4" dia. and placed it in a plastic test ube like container that closely matched the dia. of the sphere.  I stuck that down inside the coil and, with a little spin (9 volts supplied) that thing took off and sang like a turbine engine!

I tried the same tube later for my satelitte but it did not work.  but, you are correct, my main rotor mag. was spinning very fast.  I will try the lower input power to see what happens.  I may have enough adjustment with my 2 pots to slow it down, but, I doubt it.

There are so many things to try with this device, it makes my head spin.  Just holding a small neo in your hand anywhere near the spinning primary magnet gives off very strong vibrations.  This is so cool.  I wonder what magnetic tape would do?  I wonder if we could capture energy using the mag. tape like that guy that made the wind device with magnetic tape vibrating between 2 coils in a very slow wind?

Again, the possibilities are endless here.

Thanks again.

Bill
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gadgetmall

Bill
Thank you for the Source of the tube magnets . i order 4 of the 1 inch and a 3/4 inch one . I am now also an affiliate with them . thank you so much . I am getting lost in the bedini sickness again . i thought i had done it all and now look at this thing . i bet this will be an easy ou device shortly when combined with a Jt . Mine running at 1 millamp and putting out a 100 look s promising !

Albert
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Pirate88179

Albert:

Glad to hear that.  They seem to be a good company in that, I placed my order, and they very promptly sent me what I ordered.  I agree that we have just begun to explore what these things can do.  As you know, I already ran one of these tubes and a Bedini circuit from my earth battery and the ultracap I ordered from you.  After seeing what Jonny has been able to do, as well as you, and Retrod, and Xenomorph, Brownsville, and the others, I am going to have trouble keeping up.

Great job on the low amp draw.  I am sure you could run this from one of your EB's easily.

Bill
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synchro1

@Gadgetmall- You're progress is awesome! Here's a simple example that may help. Imagine a simple solenoid, a tube with a handful of windings. and a magnet plunger that we propel with a pulse. If we increase the field strength of the plunger, it will travel further in the tube with the same pulse current, right? So the greater the magnet strength, the more the spinning magnet is going to turn on the pulse coil.