The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[Thaelin]

Hi all:
   Well I have been trying to make sense of all this. I have been through the messages and video and I keep comming up with the same things.

1 7.23 hrtz opperation frequency
2 Multiple harmonics there of
3 Counter clockwise rotation of a magnetic vortex
4 Kicks are simply where the harmonics overlap as follows:
     positive side:  1   2  2   3   1   2  2   3   1
   negative side:    3  1   2    2  3   1   2    2  3

these kicks pose a very interesting wave form when seen on a scope.

Somewhere in this has to be some caps. That would make it a definate LC resonate device. Although he does specificly state that the device must never reach a resonate state. That would be the purpose of the "box" to slightly detune and keep it there. In the large device I can see what surely looks like a pair of caps.

What still has me wondering is what is being triggered with the placing of the magnet?  It was a simple ceramic magnet from the looks.
From the math it looks like the small 25watt unit is running at 400 ma and the large is at 850 ma. Thats not a lot but then considering where it seems to be comming from makes that a different ball park. I would like to get physical size measures of the large coil so I can wind up a test coil. Any one have any ideas on that?

Sugra

[tishatang]

Hi All,

Wel,l I finally downloaded the video of what I am going to call Version2, the one lighting two lamps.  So far all my comments have been on observing the very blurry first videos and a frequency  of 7.4 hertz.  I live in the country and only have a slow modem connection.  If anyone can send me a link for the clear video that shows litz wire,  would be appreciated  although, I will eventually get to it.

For the following comments, let us assume that the magnetic resonance frequency is a given at 175k hertz.  And, that the magnet excites the primary coil circuit tuned to resonance at 175k.  Let us also assume that my idea of how it works is close to being correct.

I am going to try and look at this through Steven's eyes and do a narrative that may have nothing to do with reality, but it at least will follow a logical path that will hopefully give so ideas to bulding some experimental hardware.

Version 1 is beatiful in its purity.  It uses the natural frequency of magnets to generate power.  It is sustained by the natural Schumann resonance of 7.5 hertz.  It should work even better in the middle of the desert away from modern electrical pollution.
However,  breakthrough it is, Steven realizes it has problems and can be improved.  To get any kick at all from the S. frequency, the circuit has to be tuned to its fundamental note of 7.4 hertz meaning realitivly large components.  A higher harmonic frequency would be so weak it would be lost in the noise of our modern electrical society.   Another problem is, it's scary!  The slight phase difference in freqency creates a rotating field that has to be carefully controlled to prevent runaway. ( Remember the emploding TV scenario). 

Instead of trying to find a weak signal amid the noise, why not use the pollution to maintain resonance?   The 60 cycle emf fields are virtually everywhere.  If I  tune to 60 cycles, I still have to deal with relatively large components.   If I  tune to 6,000 hertz, I can get impressive power using relatively small components.  The sub harmonic of 60 hertz will still give plenty of kick to maintain resonance.  And, I won't have as much worry about controlling a runaway situation due to a sight phase difference.  It may not work in the middle of the desert.  But how many peole live in the desert anyway?

So, Steven goes on to design Version 2.  He realizes that instead of just placing the magnet next to the resonant coil, if he incorporates the magnet into the circuit so that the current flows through it, he gets even more power.  This  is done in the Roy Meyer device and the coler device.  See Rexresearch.com

The theory is that the magnet works something like a diode.  Notice that Version 2 has two magnets each doing its half the cycle and that they are placed into a special holder (with contacts?).

Remember, Steven said no special massive electronic tricks.  Mostly just frequencies and coils and magnets.  Both Coler and Meyer were working simple devices that you could put your hands around.  But they didn't know the exact magnetic frequency of 175k hertz.  And were just lucky getting partial harmonics to maintain a weak resonance.  Think of their magnets as capacitor plates along with their respective coils forming tuned resonant circuits with the current going through the magnets and you basically have the basics of the process as I see it.  Of course I could be wrong, I'm only a musician .

Gentlemen, start your soldering irons,
Tishatang

[Elvis Oswald]

I won't speculate about steven... mannix is touchy about that...
But... considering your theory Tishatang... and I *like* the theory too - it's the same thing I was dicussing over the last couple of months in another thread... resonant circuits in cascade... so when you posted, I was very interested in hearing someone else back up what I had been considering.
I thought I could get enough voltage out of a loop antenna to begin a resonance (with a cap in series with the antenna) and begin to power the antenna to increase it's size (electronically) and capture more and more.  Of course the question is how to get the power out of the circuit...

But - back to this theory.   Is it really that simple?  The magnet induces current without motion?

But why not maximize that?  Why then use 7.4?

[tishatang]

Yes,
I think things can be simple.  Our minds try to justify their existence by thinking too much.
Roy Meyers circa 1912, in a prison tool shed makes something that works.
Hans Coler circa 1940 a tinkerer makes something that works.
Serendipity revealed to them some magic combination that got an effect.
If they could do ti, we can do it !

All I am trying to do is look at Steven's device given the parameters and hints we have been given.
since we don't have a direct dialog with Steven, we have to start somewhere to explain what we see.  If the first device
ran at 7.4hertz and the second device ran at 6k hertz, what made Steven go to the second design?
I chose to do little bit of fantasy to illustrate a thinking process.  Otherwise, we will go on discussing little tidbits here and there and
miss the overall picture.

As exciting as the MRA story was to read, it is a nonlinear scalar device.  My gut feeling is that Steven's 7.4 hertz device is on the edge of a scalar device.  How many pieces of lab gear must Steven have lost in developing that first working model? A rotating field to produce power is OK, but if it has the potential to slip into a vortex of unknown potential, we have to be very careful.  I can see why Steven is so cautious. 

Tishatang

[Elvis Oswald]

What specifically does he mean by the 7.4hz and the 6khz?  Is that the cycle of the output?