The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[bob.diroto]

Having read ALL of these post (boy did that take a long time) it struck me that we need to know the parameters to achieving the largest 'kick'. Another member of the forum pointed out that Tesla had also observed these 'kicks'. From Tesla we know that:

a. The higher the voltage applied across a wire the larger the kick.
b. The faster the voltage is made to appear on the wire the larger the kick.

So high voltage needs to be applied to the wire as a square wave with as fast a ramp up time as possible.
I'm assuming that the levels would be 0V and say 1000V as opposed to 1000V and -1000V inorder to achieve a DC output.

What I don't know is what parameters of the 'wire' will give the largest kick.
Is it:

1. Diameter of the wire.
2. Length of the wire.
3. Insulation around the wire.
4. How tighly the wire is bundled together.
5. What wire material, copper, iron, steel, or copper coated steel which is good for high frequencies.

My gut feeling is that the following would give an excellent kick:

1. Cut enamelled copper wire into 2 inch lengths - say 200 of them.
2. Strip the enamel from the ends of each wire.
3. Bundle the wires together to form a cylinder and tie with a non metallic tie. e.g. cotton
4. Solder all the wires at one end of the cylinder together and attach a thick wire - wire A.
5. Solder all the wires at the other end of the cylinder together and attach another wire - wire B.
6. This will then look like a large resistor.
7. Coat the whole cylinder with large amounts of epoxy resin (or melted acrylic) so that the cylinder is very well insulated. Perhaps as much as 0.5 inch all round ?

Why use the epoxy resin ?
Another member mentioned the problems that on connecting a high dc voltage, sparks would fly out of an insulated conductor at right angles to the wire. We want to keep the energy in the conductor so the more insulation around the conductor the better.

To test I'm thinking of applying a high voltage 0-1000V fast ramp square wave to 'wire A' and just observing. I'm hoping there will be an adundance of 'charge' in 'wire B'. I'll observe what I get! Or if anyone else thinks this has merits please try and give your observations too.

The second part would be to try and capture some of the energy. Perhaps a simple two coil transformer  attached to part B.

Alternatively:

a.  I was thinking of doing away with all the epoxy around the cylinder and simply wrap a secondary around the cylinder and just observe the voltage obtained.

or

b. Putting the whole unepoxied cylinder inside a copper pipe, and then putting epoxy around the copper pipe. The copper pipe would act as the collector of energy from the wires inside.


I'm throwing this out as an idea, for brainstorming, the main point being to understand what parameters give the biggest kick.

Also Patrick Flanagen's Electric Field Generator ( see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/efg.htm) appears to share some attributes with what we are doing. It would be interesting to see what would happen if his device was place inside a copper pipe and a high voltage positive offset square wave applied.I bet you would get a large current flowing through the pipe if you connect a wire to each end of the pipe. As far as I can tell he uses high voltage AC sine waves without any DC offset. i.e. +5000v to -5000V as opposed to a DC offset sinewave of +10000 to 0 volts.

[bob.diroto]

Consider this hypothetical case. If you look at the still surface of a dam of water and you paddle your feet in the dam, there does not appear to be any energy in the dam. Now imagine that you have no idea what a dam is. Now imagine your education system teaches you that to use the water from the dam you have to 'scoop' the water from the top of the dam. Over time there is a concrete set of laws on scooping water. The larger the bucket the more water you scoop etc.

Now imagine that one day you are messing around at the bottom of the dam on the outside and decide to stick in a pipe into the dam a few feet down. All of sudden there is this huge rush of water through the pipe!! How can this be ? Your scoop 'laws' clearly tell you that you cannot scoop more water than the size of the scoop. Yet if you measure the amount of water pouring out of the pipe. It is clearly much more than the size of the pipe!! IMPOSSIBLE! But the people who know the rules believe this is a trick. They tell you connect this so called 'pipe' to the top of the dam and show us your 'scoop-pipe' scooping water back into the dam. (Everyone knows that an immutible law of scooping is that if you scoop water you can pour back into the dam). Low and behold when you connect the pipe to the top of the dam, the water stops pouring. Everyone laughs having PROVED that you are a fraud.....

Now clearly if you have no knowledge of what a dam is and how it works, the above differences in taking water out of the dam appear to 'magical' and go against all known laws! If you try and analyse how the pipe is getting the water, using the 'scoop' laws you are bound to fail to understand how the pipe is working. 'Scooping' is not the principle being used on the dam.

Similarly with the Steven Mark's device we are trying to understand what is happening based on an incomplete model of how electricity is generated and what electricity really is and for that matter what magnetism really is. We are thinking in terms of transformers (the scoops in the dam example) where we really need to start thinking in terms of the 'pipe' and trying to think what the 'dam' is really like.

This is what lead me to the basics concerning the 'kick' in the previous email - and of course mannix insistence that this is where we should start.

Now some further thoughts on how to proceed. The Steven Mark device clearly has complex timings involved - to do with frequencies, magnets etc. How much of this complexity is due to wanting to feedback some of the output back into the input - but at the right frequencies ? My gut feeling is - most of it.

After all you don't just decide to wrap a few coils with magnets and happen across the exact number of windings, gauge of wire, core, capacitance etc. No way. Everything starts with a little of the 'umm that is strange'. Then replicating the effect. Then determining what makes the effect bigger. Then once you can achieve an output greater than your input - you then look to feedback some of the output into the input. Ahh, but if the effect is dependant on frequencies, tying outputs to inputs can play havoc with all those things that affect frequecies and oscillation in electronics. So you come up with a clever scheme to make it all work which indirectly (and obviously unintentionally) MASKS what is really happening.

I'm sure the 'ahha' moment is due to the kick. Understand how we can make this kick bigger and how we can collect some useful energy from the kick and we will be on the way to understanding what is happening.

This is my guess on what is happening. Magnetism obviously plays a large part in this device. Let's disregard what we think we know about magnetic fields and instead make an assumption that there are north and south magnetic particles. (Scientist have long sought to determine the existance of a  magnetic monopole and I can't see how this could be possible unless magnetism was caused by particles which undermost circumstances appeared in pair and thus the appearance of a field.) So let's go along with the assumption for now. The kick somehow brings these particles into existence for a brief period of time. The two magnets are used to cause the particles to flow in opposite directions down a wire. The interaction of the particles causes electrons to flow to create electricity but not in the same manner as a true magnetic field. This is why the output is DC rather than the expected AC when dealing with conductors being exposed to a changing magnetic field. It is the coming together of magnetic particles that causes the electron flow. This is why you don't want an iron core! The iron core would be very attractive to the particles and thus they wouldn't combine where you want them to.

So Mannix/ Steven Mark am I close ?

[gn0stik]

Tesla/Sweet/Gray/Wootan et al, all found independently that the resonant frequency for magnetic fields was somewhere in the 180Khz Range. With the MRA, they found that it seemed to be precicely 174.926. I don't know if this applies here, but the MRA was found to be resonating with the earth's magnetic field when not being introduced to specific local magnetic fields. The "Kicks" are probably the highs and lows of the square wave itself. I don't know if this will help with the Marks device or not, but it seems relevant.

[bob.diroto]

Monsieur gnostic that is very interesting. I wonder what would happen if you had a coil whose natural resonant frequency was the 175khz ? Is that possible, how do you calculate the resonant freq of a coil of wire without any capacitors - I will look this up. Then apply a square wave at this frequency, perhaps adding permanent magnet as part of the electric circuit but not in the traditional sense but as if it is a conductor. Are neos conductive to electricity ? Will check this too.

I'm certain this device is for real. Take a look at the adams motor. Same mode of operation. Applying a pulse into a coil, disconnect of return path, other pickup coils near by, magnetic fields from permanent magnets near by. Optimum settings at resonant freq of the coils. Rotating magnetic field due to actual rotation of the permanent magnet. There are common concepts here.

[gn0stik]

Monsieur gnostic that is very interesting. I wonder what would happen if you had a coil whose natural resonant frequency was the 175khz ? Is that possible, how do you calculate the resonant freq of a coil of wire without any capacitors - I will look this up. Then apply a square wave at this frequency, perhaps adding permanent magnet as part of the electric circuit but not in the traditional sense but as if it is a conductor. Are neos conductive to electricity ? Will check this too.

I'm certain this device is for real. Take a look at the adams motor. Same mode of operation. Applying a pulse into a coil, disconnect of return path, other pickup coils near by, magnetic fields from permanent magnets near by. Optimum settings at resonant freq of the coils. Rotating magnetic field due to actual rotation of the permanent magnet. There are common concepts here.

Neos are conductive.. They are composed of mostly iron Nd(FE)b, and most are nickel coated. Now if you read the info on the MRA here: http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm, you will find that there are other aspects that are similar to the TPU. It has what they call "virtual rotation". The principal is that they rotate the energy via resonance, instead of mechanically rotating anything. I have a feeling that something similar is happening in the TPU, albeit MUCH more effectively, and efficiently. After which the inductance in one coil cascades to the next creating power (and a magnetic field). This may be, in part,  what creates the gyroscopic effect. Rotating energy via resonance, and hence a rotating magnetic field via inductance.

Just a thought.