The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[Mica Busch]

the like seem to all follow a very simiar pattern and they are all so believeable till you closely inspect the facts of which the crucial ones are almost always left out and the person is often working through a proxy. this proxy often has their ego fully invested see: ego alert >>The Master Of Magnetics << ego alert "Steven Mark"

Ignorance.
This thread was started by Mannix, an ASSOCIATE of Mark's, and the word 'Master' appears only in the title, nowhere in the original post or quoted letter. The title is obviously a note of enthusiasm and respect for Mr. Mark's understanding of electromagnetic phenomena, which would ellicit the idea that he is a 'Master' of such, because of what he has done with that understanding. Much like a chess master being able to beat any 'newbies'. Mannix is simply excited about what has been discovered. Proxy? Yes. I believe he explained why he does not post directly.

Anyways, I commend the contributors to this thread and I follow it closely, good work!
It is exciting to see the equations take shape behind the results

[gn0stik]

I've highlighted below the techniques this 'Dean' person is using to instill doubt.

He will attempt to draw us into further discussions, under the guise of wanting 'to believe' or 'prove it to me' to waste time and also so he can use the pattern of selecting a subset of information, making a logical fallacy, and drawing a conclusion that instills doubt.

I suggest any further posts we simply reply by pointing back to this posting
which clearly demonstrates his modus operandi.

The only convincing part of the demonstration would be the television example however, this may easily have been hoaxed, their is really no way to show that the eample did anything other than close a circuit which may have been supplied power from another source. We do not see behind inside or around the television set. The handy vac and drill could easily have been battery operated for those amounts of time.

Powering those lights could have easily been accomplished for those lengths of time with batteries embedded in the cores of the devices. I honestly believe that we may just be being decieved by making a lot of assumptions then accepting a not so credible tv example.

He quotes a small subset of the information available on all the videos/forum.
He then states as fact that only a subset of the information he has given is the only credible information.
He then goes on to show how his ONE example could be faked. And then draws the INCORRECT conclusion that if you doubt the TV example, you should seriously consider that you are being decieved. He is doing the logical equivalent of "All fish live underwater therefore everything underwater must be a fish.". He fails to mention the video demonstration of the flame like discharge from the large coil.

The flame discharge showing vaporisation of metal with intense white arcing light requires HIGH FREQUENCY, HIGH VOLTAGE and HIGH CURRENT. This is a FACT. This clearly indicates that HIGH POWER is available.

You forgot his most glaring issue. The fact he says that those lights or the handi vac or drill could easily be powered by batteries for such a short period of time.

Please find me an array of batteries that small that could power those devices. I encourage you to find me an array of batteries that could power even one of those lightbulbs that would fit in such a small package as the tpu model he is demonstrating there. You obviously have NO experience with electronics or power requirements for AC powered electrical devices. You hear that loud raspy wind when he's running the drill? Those are it's brushes. This has a powerful AC motor in it. It's not like a makita 18 volt cordless. Theres much more power in it. Lets not forget the TV was running the whole time. While the drill was running, and while the vac was running. And the light bulbs, each of those was at the minimum 15 watts.

[Liberty]

The doubt will persist until a successful replication is made of the TPU device or something like it.  It is only natural and to be expected.  I would suggest that concentration on the technical aspects of replication of the TPU along with experimentation will further the cause and bring us closer to an answer, more than speculations of whether we believe it or not.   

[gn0stik]

Hey Lindsay, how goes the battle?

Good to hear from you again. I thought perhaps we'd lost you to history.

As far as the switching, your probably right, we might need to use tubes to start with, until we can find the frequencies we need to work with. If we can find the frequencies with a function generator, we can then trim the coils to resonate naturally at those frequencies. I'm thinking this will be the thing that kills us.. We could literally test frequencies for the rest of our lives before finding even one of them. This is much more difficult than safe cracking. Do you have any ideas where we should start? Have we hit on any of the correct frequencies in our research thus far?

[dean_mcgowan]

Okay Lets just skip the options a,b,c... etc  and accept we are all feeing pain in this.

Given the premises put forward as to my understanding of this device, and should I have made an attempt myself to replicate the device with a small degree of success, ie. I am not powering my househld from it. How would I go about proving or disproving that I have suceeded or failed and am not just living too close to a powerful emf source?

Assuming by this point in time you all dont think i am a pot smoking no brain, detractor with an IQ of 130 and no ambition.

What is the testing/validation framework?

Because I dont buy giving an example of two large lamp bases with more than enough room to fit a small  car battery within them, taking this beyond a hobbyist experiment and as a professional excersise how do I proceed?

Should I prepare some kind of shielding from external sources similar to a faraday cage etc..?

Can I extend one more idea (unqualified ofcourse) from my own attempts, that is that if this engery is derived from quantum fluctuations, then the switching mechanism you are pursuing may be inherent in the materials used and the mass ratios (often prescribed to be 1:1) within the components and therefor I am contemplating that a switching unit of the calibre being pursued may either not be in existence or may be just out of reach (present tech).

So thinking outside of the box here ..

a) is the switch inherent in the design/balance of components
b) or a new innovation such as described below

I do remember reviewing a presentation regarding silicon magnetic switching to be developed for new microprocessors, similar to hard disk data technology yet a lot smaller.   

The gates are made from a new compound derived from believe it or not some black sludge/dust byproduct of gold mining that has the amazing ability to be able to magnetise and demagnetise at extremely short intervals. This is not some fanciful idea, given time i am sure i can relocate the video and its a presentation made by a reputable physicist at a reputable forum.


Regards

Dean McGowan