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Overunity Machines Forum



The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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Elvis Oswald

Quote from: tao on June 18, 2006, 10:30:50 PM
But Elvis, wouldn't the power be a such a high level after the device ran for many minutes/seconds that when you remove the magnet you are no longer just opposing that first magnetic field, but you are now opposing the NEW much more powerful field?

So, I don't see how pulling the magnet away would completely slow the device down to a stop??

Or are you just telling me that when the magnet is removed it starts a chain of events that stops the device eventually, and when I figure out what those events are that I will know what the magnet is there for?

Just trying to understand what you meant.

A magnet approaching the device *appears* to start it.
We know that a magnetic field approaching a coil will induce current.
We also know that the device starts with some amount of power - that's what Mannix has said.

So if it starts with power, and mulitplies that power... then any small amount of power would do - including a small magnet inducing current in a coil.  And since we see him do that... I would suggest it's just that simple.

The magnet stays on the device, unmoved while it's running.
Steven said it had to stay there.
We know that the magnet sitting there is doing nothing in the way of inducing current.
So the reason it sits there is not to do something... but to keep from doing what it would do if moved... otherwise, Steven would move the magnet past the device to start it, or put it on and then take it off.

A building magnetic field creates current in a coil... and a collapsing field creates current in a coil... but the polarity is reversed.

Connect a light bulb to a coil and pass the coil through a horseshoe magnet. The light will flash.  Actually it's two flashes that are too fast to see as two.
Pass the coil through the magnet and stop in the middle.  The light will flash once.  When you continue, and remove the coil, the light flashes again.
You can use a compass to see that one side of the coil is N and one side is S when the first current flows... and then the poles reverse when the second current flows.

Given the facts as we know them - I am 100% sure that the reverse current reverses the whole process in the device.  Exactly how that works is still not clear to me... and that may be because if I knew that, I'd know how the whole thing worked :)
So that's why I said - this is something to figure out... and I think it's very important to understanding the device.
At the least... it's better to check every leap of faith against the known facts - before you end up miles away from the truth.







bob.diroto

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By elvis.
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First - current moving through a wire creates a magnetic field or flux... but moving the circuit through space is not going to increase that field or flux.

Secondly - a capacitor that is charged and sitting there is not moving current.  The current moves when it's discharged.

Thirdly - the 'charge' in a capacitor is electrostatic, and the charge is held between the plates.  I'm 99% sure that there is 0 magnetic field or flux outside a capacitor.  So moving it is not the same as moving a magnet towards a coil and inducing current.

To point 1: Who said anything about a current going throught a wire ?
Moving charges whether they are in a wire or not create a magnetic field.
A plasma is a good example.
It is also well known that a spinning CD disc create a small oscillating magnetic field due to the static charges on the disc.

To point 2: But they are moving charges which in theory should create a magnetic field. See where I'm going with this...

To point 3: So if a CD disc, with static charge, that rotates can create a magnetic field why not a capacitor with it's much larger charge ?

bob.diroto

Quote from: tao on June 18, 2006, 10:47:34 PM
Depending on which pole he biased the BLOWOUT with he could charge copper collectors around with either hot or cold electricity.

That's new information to me - I haven't come across this idea before.
Is this an idea of yours or is this from another source ?
Do you have any web refs for this, I'm very interested in following up on this ?

thanks.

Elvis Oswald

Bob - I see where you're going.  But honestly, why not just move magnets?

bob.diroto

Quote from: Elvis Oswald on June 19, 2006, 12:49:21 AM
Bob - I see where you're going.  But honestly, why not just move magnets?

Magnets inducing charges into wires have backemf and back torque and are therefore self limiting.

Can the same be said for rotating charges outside of a conductor that are in a dielectric.

See this excellent web ref which compares moving charge in a conductor with moving charge in a dielectric.
http://www.blazelabs.com/e-exp10.asp

The 'kicks' energy on the collector has an electrostatic character, yet the Mark Steven's device has rotating magnetic fields. There is also supposedly some sort of interaction with the ionesphere which can be thought of as a plate of a capacitor with the earth being the other ?

In other words we need to make a leap in our generation mechanisms between a non moving electrostatic field and a rotating magnetic fields.