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300ccm 4-stroke Generator running on 8 liters of HHO

Started by woodpecker, March 30, 2009, 01:07:23 AM

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NerzhDishual

@Woodpecker

Very nice, amazing and promissing work. Bravo!
It is the first time I hear about this strange 'dry cell'.
I guess that you are using the 'brute force'. I mean: no 'pulsed resonant' DC (like Meyer).

Just few questions please:

Why are you utilizing 24 Volts?

I have purchased one of these 4 strokes 2.5 KW generator. It has a 220 Volts AC output and
also a 12 volt DC output that can be used (I guess)  to charge a battery. For the moment this engine
is still waiting in his  millboard box for some experiments... :-\

Do you absolutely need 24 volts DC? With  12 volts You could use the generator to recharge the bat
and have a water running generator while, perhaps, getting some extra AC energy from it ???

BTW: sorry for my naive question but: why is it called a 'dry' cell?
You use water and electrolyte in it. Do you? Or I am missing something ???

Very Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

woodpecker

@NerzhDishual

QuoteIt is the first time I hear about this strange 'dry cell'.
I guess that you are using the 'brute force'. I mean: no 'pulsed resonant' DC (like Meyer).

Just few questions please:

Why are you utilizing 24 Volts?

as Ramset said, on my thread "Drycell goes to Austria" you will find on page 5 posting from 08.02.09 the plan  for the construction of the cell.
There is also a video at youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJDKYXmIWM

I am using 24 Volts, because i have solarpannels working on 24 V and also a Batt.charger on 24 V, so it´s easier for me and i have not to make to much powerconnections. But you can do it at 12 V as well.
Drycell is just the name that have been used, but of course there is water in it. Panaceauniversity.org call it: "openbath flooded cell"
It needs only about 0,5% of Elektrolyte (KOH)
Quoteand have a water running generator while, perhaps, getting some extra AC energy from it Huh
As i wrote, for running under full load, i gues that i would need 1-2 liters more gas, and/or change the ignition timing, so this would need about 1200-1400 Watt of Energy. My Generator is producing about 2500 Watt of energy, so there is extra AC energy of at least 1000 Watt and do not forget the heat energy that the engine is producing and that we could use as well, for heating!

Please have a look at www.panaceauniversity.org,  too,these ar wonderful people and the have lots of informations, not only on hydroxy!

@ramset, what about the heater?? You wanted to text me, but i havent got anything?

G woodpecker

Mark69

The term drycell is used because the cell is not submerged in the water/electrolyte (a.k.a. wet cell) but the cell completely encloses the water/electrolyte in itself. 

@Woodpecker

This is a great video!  Yes, if you change your timing you should get better results.  You want to delay the firing, closer to TDC (top dead center).  If you are starting on gasoline then gonna switch to your HHO, you will probably will want to have an adjustable controller as it will not run right with the timing delayed when on gasoline.  Looking forward to your next video!  Are you going to connect the generator to your house grid?  That should spin your electric meter backwards!  I haven't built the drycell yet, was working on some windmill stuff.

Mark

woodpecker

QuoteIf you are starting on gasoline then gonna switch to your HHO, you will probably will want to have an adjustable controller as it will not run right with the timing delayed when on gasoline.
Mark, have a look at the videolink, Stefan has posted in "Car runs on HHO" they too have delayed the ignition timing and could start quite easy.
But where could i get a adjustable device. I know the change of the timing is not such an easy thing and any motor is a little bit different. That's why i sad we would need experienced Peoples in this, to show us how we can change it in a simple way. I  already needed two month to get my capacitor ignition running with the Hallsensor and  now i would nee some time to hook it to the motor. A Speciallist would do this in 5 minutes.

woodpecker

NerzhDishual


@Woodpecker

Thanks a lot for your precious information.
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ is on my favourite site list.
I should consult it more often.  :P
I have downloaded the Hydroxy Boosters.pdf file.

This device sounds like a real breakthrough!
0.5 % of Electrolyte is really amazing.

What about trying to run your generator with few gasoline and not *only* on HHO???.
You would not need to modify the ignition timing and, in the long run ,your motor
would be more happy...

About one year ago, I wrote an article in a French fringe magazine about a guys who
managed to get more than 75% of fuel consumption saving.
BTW: he his still trying to get an "official acknowledgment" before putting his device on the
market. I wish him an infinite patience. ;D

AS you can speak French, may I suggest you this process server affidavit
(constat d'huissier)  : http://freenrg.info/UTOPIATECH/PROCES_VERBAL_2.pdf

Very Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.