Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[hansvonlieven]

One would expect that equilibrium behavior would be when axis of rotation coincides with the center of mass.

That is only one way to have equilibrium. However, an equilibrium state is achieved if the centre of mass is anywhere along a vertical line through the pivot. Unstable equilibrium above the pivot, stable equilibrium below.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

That is only one way to have equilibrium. However, an equilibrium state is achieved if the centre of mass is anywhere along a vertical line through the pivot. Unstable equilibrium above the pivot, stable equilibrium below.

Hans von Lieven

That's true but in this case it isn't -- center of mass is persistantly to the right of the axis of rotation.

[Omnibus]

The center of mass vs. axis of rotation calculation may be even a simpler way than @mondrasek's method to determine the workability of the studies devices. Like I said, if that center of mass is indeed always to the left of the pivot then the device is a perpetuum mobile beyond any doubt.

As a matter of fact that discrepancy (non-coincidence of center of mass and axis of rotation) is what attracted my attention to this, not so much seeing the wheel turn. We have to determine is that really the case or is some flaw in the way wm2d calculates center of mass.

[hansvonlieven]

That's true but in this case it isn't -- center of mass is persistantly to the right of the axis of rotation.

That cannot be right because if it were you would have perpetual motion.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

That cannot be right because if it were you would have perpetual motion.

Hans von Lieven

Correct. That's why I still think we do have a perpetuum mobile.

We already have discontinuous production of excess energy definitively confirmed by the magnetic propulsor. Also, that "squeezed-cherry-pit" concept which Veljko Milkovic seems to utilize as well is likely producing discontinuously excess energy. What remains to be seen is how to make that production of excess energy occur continuously and Abeling's may be one solution.