Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@mondrasek,

Could you please continue your thought from here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg171965#msg171965. Probably you recall my post to you http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg171005#msg171005 in which, although no gyro effect was involved, nevertheless shows how the same gravitational potential energy can be spent once for a vertical displacement and, if appropriate construction is available, for a displacement sideways, at 90 degrees. So, suppose we spend part of the gravitational energy which the sphere had at the top to convert it into rotational at the bottom, what will be the construction for turning the wheel such that, by repeating this with each one of the spheres, it will accomplish a full turn (will close the loop). See, what I'm getting at is to explore the practical application for our purposes of the fact mentioned by you that the gyro will be deflected at 90 degrees compared to non-gyro impact. Do you have any concrete ideas in this practical aspect or you're just mentioning that 90 degree deflection as just food for thought? At this point I don't see any practical ramification for our purposes of that fact.

[AquariuZ]

LOL

This has more thrills in it than Indiana Jones

Look out for the wheel! Watch the ramp! Noo.

....just......cant......yes

Cherrymans gears BTW enjoy the show

OK back to the egg...

[mondrasek]

@mondrasek,

Could you please continue your thought from here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg171965#msg171965. Probably you recall my post to you http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg171005#msg171005 in which, although no gyro effect was involved, nevertheless shows how the same gravitational potential energy can be spent once for a vertical displacement and, if appropriate construction is available, for a displacement sideways, at 90 degrees. So, suppose we spend part of the gravitational energy which the sphere had at the top to convert it into rotational at the bottom, what will be the construction for turning the wheel such that, by repeating this with each one of the spheres, it will accomplish a full turn (will close the loop). See, what I'm getting at is to explore the practical application for our purposes of the fact mentioned by you that the gyro will be deflected at 90 degrees compared to non-gyro impact. Do you have any concrete ideas in this practical aspect or you're just mentioning that 90 degree deflection as just food for thought? At this point I don't see any practical ramification for our purposes of that fact.

It's definitely just food for thought, but with a few spices added that, though probably ground from the ignorant root, I thought intriguing.

In the current embodiments of the Abeling patent the weights encounter a force near the bottom of their fall through the right side of the wheel (in a clockwise turning wheel example like in the patent).  The force is due to the ramps that start to bring the weight closer to the axle.  When this ramp force is pushing straight up, the 90 degree reaction force could be straight to the left, aiding with the wheel's rotation.  As the weight rises up the ramp towards the 9 o'clock position the ramp is exerting a force on the weight that is to the right.  The 90 degree reaction force is now straight up, assisting in raising the weight:  Effectively lightly lifting the weight.  After this point, CF should push the weight back out to the rim in the sling shot trajectory.  I have not thought that through.  I'm not sure where the real force vectors acting on the weights are in this area.

I understand the concept of precession as it applies to gyroscopes and the 90 degree displacement reactions that result due to forces applied to one end of a gyroscope axle.  I have no idea how they apply if a force acts on both ends of the axle equally, or, in our case, if applied to the center of the axle with two weights spinning on the ends.

It was just food for though in the "How the hell could this work?" department.  I think we all agree the patent is for a non working devise *or* something is not disclosed in the patent.  This is one idea that is not disclosed that is also not ruled out by the patent.  Take from it what you will.

BTW, another work related road trip tomorrow so I do not know when I can respond to questions, criticism, and/or attacks.

M.

[mondrasek]

... enjoy the show

This is one most excellent adventure!

[AquariuZ]

This is one most excellent adventure!

I was laughing all the way up to frame 8000

Poor little ball