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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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AquariuZ

@omnibus

That was a lot of work... Hopefully not in vain

Have not tested it yet.

AZ

Omnibus

@mondrasek,

Like I said, I’m still not convinced that in this particular case introducing finer accuracy steps is beneficial and that the finer it is the more it approaches reality. Case in point â€" rotation becomes un-physically slow, to mention an example. Let alone that at finer accuracy limits constraints are ignored. I understand where you’re coming from and indeed you’re right regarding the integrating the are under a curve. Unfortunately here we have integrations and solving difference equations in real time in a serial fashion at that. As you correctly pointed out earlier one of these serial steps may take longer (especially if more iterative cycles are to be carried out to reach the accuracy limit) than some other step and the result is out of sequence calculation. That it’s a sequence problem may be seen when you put very crude limits, just for the heck of it. You’ll see this disjointing visually. I’m still not sure the solution isn’t a matter of optimization rather than getting into the accuracy limits.

I also addressed the mass/size argument pointing out that a model with the exactly same size of balls and wheel performs differently. So, this (mass/size impact on running the algorithm) also isn’t something we should take for granted.

Therefore, as I already said, the problems don’t seem straightforward on both sides of the issue (both on the pro and on the con side). We really need to know what exact methods (Monte-Carlo, Runge Kutta, finite (boundary) elements or what have you) are used and exactly how they are applied. Otherwise the story will be similar to what’s being done in Quantum Mechanics â€" we’ll have to see it experimentally and then adjust the parameters of the wm2d simulation to appear it’s a great engineering software that “always works” (as they usually refer to QM when “proving” its usefulness in this way, which is almost all they do).

Omnibus

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 21, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
@omnibus

That was a lot of work... Hopefully not in vain

Have not tested it yet.

AZ

Thanks @AquariuZ. Will take a look at it a little later and will let you know what happened. One thing that is seen at once is that the grooves aren't the hockey stick ones @Dusty is cutting into his wheel. Didn't we already explore this form of the grooves you have in your last model?


AquariuZ

Quote from: Omnibus on April 21, 2009, 02:31:21 PM
Thanks @AquariuZ. Will take a look at it a little later and will let you know what happened. One thing that is seen at once is that the grooves aren't the hockey stick ones @Dusty is cutting into his wheel. Didn't we already explore this form of the grooves you have in your last model?

They are mirrors of eisenacks....

So far no joy..

Dusty has straight ones, but are they pointing to the axle or are they offset like in the abeling patent figure 8?