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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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skippy

Hello,  I posted this http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg172954#msg172954 on april 20th

Unfortunately no one seemed to have understood what I was trying to describe.  I apologise for the crudeness of this diagram, As drawn it will not work, but mearly illustrates the basic idea for an acceleration mechanism that I think could work for this wheel.  - Skippy

ruggero

Quote from: 0c on April 24, 2009, 09:25:53 PM
Abeling's idea is the egg-shaped path dumbbell weights where the weights stay on the wheel.

My idea is where the weights actually depart from the wheel at the bottom and rejoin it at the top, thus providing the "overbalance". I have never seen a wheel like what I am proposing. If you know of one, give me a reference so I can give credit where credit is due. Maybe it has already been investigated somewhere.


Not correct.

I - for one - proposed such a 'depart and rejoin' wheel yesterday.

And Abeling could very well be doing the same (if you read carefully in his patent he says that "- at least one carrier disc (2) rotating around a horizontal axle (6), having at least one weight (3) attached which can move mainly radially outward in a predetermined path.")

But - as you say, oC - who cares who made the idea: Lets get it working!
regards
ruggero  ;-)

Omnibus

@ruggero,

I'm back to that dxf file you were creating. It appears that wm2d will not import curves which are not closed. Can you check again if all the curves in your dxf sketch are closed?

0c

Quote from: ruggero on April 25, 2009, 04:20:41 AM
But - as you say, oC - who cares who made the idea: Lets get it working!

Looks like there is as much resistance to different ideas here as there is in the scientific community. Those who have the resources don't want to explore concepts that differ from their own.

I'd really like to see what a skilled wm2d user like Hans or Mondrasek could do with these proposals.

Oh well ...

Omnibus

Quote from: 0c on April 25, 2009, 11:57:27 AM
Looks like there is as much resistance to different ideas here as there is in the scientific community. Those who have the resources don't want to explore concepts that differ from their own.

I'd really like to see what a skilled wm2d user like Hans or Mondrasek could do with these proposals.

Oh well ...

That's not true. Efforts are exerted here where it seems reasonable to do so. In general the same is true for the scientific community at large, except when basic ideas are challenged (not some detail in the idea under exploration, as your proposal). The effort at this point has to be directed towards @Dusty's contraption which seems the most plausible so far, let alone that @Dusty is making it in flesh and blood and we need to help him more than anybody else. Unfortunately we can't get to create the dxf file of the rotor that could be imported into wm2d. That's what the current state of the project looks like.

Like I said, stop nagging the way you did when you brought about the hoaxer @alsetalokin to teach you a lesson which you obviously haven't learned.