Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[AB Hammer]

  To discuss armoring as pure engineering, I think I would go with Roman Armoring.
One of the reasons for this is that British Armoring was far more mechanized.
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/ancient-roman-armor.html

The advancements of the Romans were impressive for all the construction and military tactics ect. Alot was assimilated from other countries they conquered. All the artisans, blacksmiths/armorers, ect. were always assimilated into the roman society for their advancements.

Now back to wheel work. Bessler dealt with blacksmith for all the tools, weights, gears, drills, fasteners, files, ect. of what he needed. 

BTW, Here is one of my Roman chest plates that is a bit more historic. I study all ancient history for the mechanical advancements. For I am quite often involved with reconstruction of such machines due to my skills. 

[AB Hammer]

  I doubt metal smiths designed those ships. In what I have learned about them, that has never been suggested.
As for the sail making, the needles were most likely made out of bone. So as far as the sills go, metal smiths most likely had nothing to do with them.
It is possible the ships were made using the adzes the metal smiths made. and that could be the closest they came to those ships. Of course if they were cross trained, then I would have something in common with them.

Jim you need to read this about viking needles.
http://www.stringpage.com/viking/needles.html

[AB Hammer]

Or it could be you're just an armorer. With your air bubble idea, I made a couple suggestions. But you stayed with your idea as posted. The design did have flaws.
Such as a blower consumes to much energy before it can pump air. it is not positive displacemnent which is needed at low rpm's. Also, air bubbles in water will try to float what is above it. Yet you believed it would decrease the density of water allowing a weighted float to sink.
There is a difference between manufacturing soemthing and understanding the engineering behind it.

Jim

About the bubbles. Even the Myth Busters proved you can sink boats with bubbles. The only real problem is can it get enough bubbles to make it work and will it work well enough to keep enough bubbles.

As for being an engineer it means

Engineers apply the principles of science and mathematics to develop economical solutions to technical problems. Their work is the link between scientific discoveries and the commercial applications that meet societal and consumer needs.

Metallurgy is a domain of materials science that studies the physical and chemical behavior of metallic  elements, their intermetallic compounds, and their mixtures, which are called alloys. It is also the technology  of metals: the way in which science is applied to their practical use. Metallurgy is commonly used in the craft of metalworking.

metallurgy. safety equipment/armour. designs of all kinds of equipment and the construction of.  ballistics, to know how much protection to apply to the armour. Like I have said, the Blacksmithing/armouring  is pure engineering. But there are allot of engineering titles, and allot of them have nothing to do with what either of us do. So can we stop with all this of who is or is not an engineer? It is totally trivial in reality.

Alan

[AB Hammer]

In your concept Alan, bubbles would not have worked. As usual, you cahnged the discussion to someone else. You're not the Myth Busters. Besides, they've already proved perpetual motion is impossible if you go by what they say.
As for what bessler said, a good carpenter could build his wheel. This means my brother Eddie would be better qualified than you as he has over 35 years of construction experience.
I know what an engineer is Alan, I've worked with many in my life. This is how I know you are not o0ne.
You sound more like an attorney trying a case. But you can present no eviddence as to your engineering abiliity. Your grid and Keel Effect are testaments to this. You do not discuss the actual engineering.
If you understood it, you would. I think this is why you get upset with me, I do dscuss engineering in detail.

FDROLMAO Jim

I prove without a shadow of a bought with quotes from definitions of an engineer and you now say  you that it don't count and you judge. WOW I didn't realize I was talking to an engineering god.
Give it up! It is only trivial, especially your opinion. As to what someone is. You don't have the authority or the qualification to give or take titles away.  So go play with yourself and leave this trivial crap out of it.

[AB Hammer]

  What's your point ? You said they used metal needles. I pointed out your mistake and you have proven me right.
At least one of us knows history.

You Idiot, I never said they didn't use bone but what the link said is only large needles the rest are metals. And that doesn't mean large needle were not made or metal either. What tools are there to make the large needle. A metal knife perhaps?

Without Blacksmith we would all be in the stone age. Nothing more need be said.