MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

[X00013]

@ watts, whats ur tube handle? I look foward to vids!!

[nyctuber]

This is nuts, man.

The fishing line is clearly visible in the early videos. 

Nevermind the fact that Mylow's setup had zero to do with HJ's motor.

It superficially resembled it.

I wonder if anyone is even aware of the composition of the magnets in the stonehenge picture.

I'll give you a hint: Take a look at the Train, or the Gate, or even the flat shaded Domino setup.

HJ's most basic principle was magnetic shading (shorting out spins on a pole)

This is how he was able to make an N stator become attracted to an N gate. The spins were altered, the stator car was  essentially fooled into thinking N was S, based on altered spins.

It seems to prove his theory that magnetic lines of force are not as we're taught, due to his assertion that iron filings become magnets themselves and show inaccurate flux lines.

Now take a look at the Train Bedini has.

Any idea how complicated that is?

HJ uses multiple shaded poles, corner angle spins into a back megnet, deflected by rubber magnet to the following group of magnets, angles held in place by wood wedges.

His wheel, we know nothing about.

What does it all mean? It means that HJ used spintronics and pole shading, trying to utilize momentary spin bursts as a propulsive force.

It-has-zero-to-do-with-what-Mylow-did.

[Omega_0]

Very nice wheel Wattsup... what magnets do you have ?

I'm still trying various configs on my wheel just bcz its fun !
I read the HJ book - secret world of magnets, its a small book (40 pages) and contains mostly pics of his plots. He clearly did some original research. The double vortex and all.

But .... (there's always a but), he never says you can get free energy or perpetual motion out of magnets. He only says that magnets can provide motive force (like the train etc), which is obvious.

The book is on scribd.com, if anyone likes to read. (perhaps an illegal copy, sorry if its against forum policies. such things must be free.)

[markdansie]

Thanks Milo for finding this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzC4TrPHkzg

[wattsup]

@BEP

Don't buy up all the mags on the market will y'a. Just jock'in.
Glad to see you have some interest in this.

You know what, I thought this magnet thingy would be a relaxing change from TPU overdosing but I guess I was very wrong. Well half wrong. The magnets are relaxing but this whole story was a little more then most had gambled for. So the only solution is just play with the magnets cause that IS relaxing and very interesting.

If there are guys in Canada that have channel rotors or other that they want to sell let me know also. If I can help someone that feels they have been duped, no problem if it fits into my mag requirements.

@Omega_0

Thanks for your post.

Well I have lots of bar magnets and horseshoe magnets that should be arriving hope early this week, but in the interim I am just playing around with my neos which is great because I don't have to glue them. Three on top and one from the bottom holds them well in place and you can slide them every way you want to study many positioning effects. All north up. lol

Tried neos as stator but neo on neo is just too strong for this kin d of set-up.

I am also using hard drive magnets in between the segments to brake the sticky and it works. I also have hard drive magnets with the magnet removed to use just the backing. I will also boil a few small DC motor chassis to loosen off the magnets and try them.

There are so many ways to do this. Can't wait to get my horseshoes cause that will open up so many news ways of testing.

The photo below shows neos, hard drive mags and my stator is a bunch of round magnets held together all placed as one magnet secured on my microphone stand for quick and easy stator placements. I will also try these with the magnets placed in a continuous repulsion mode and see how they work out.

I managed so far to get 2 1/2 rotations from just letting it go out of a repulsion state. I still have to work out the video thing since my last camcorder is no longer. I purchased a web cam but I find the image is not that great.

Oh, once I had a good set-up I then also took my second wheel which is 1/2" and place it on top of the the populated 1/4" wheel. This allowed me to place my stator very close to the top wheel to effect the magnets in an otherwise impossible closeness. The top plate acts like a refraction medium mixing up the fields but still keep the forward movement.

@all

OK, here is a LAST warning. If this thread is to continue, there will be no more negative posts or smart remarks here. This is for builders and side-testers and magnetic theories to post their builds and results. Let's keep it that way please. Any undue negativism of guys with repeated lectures that we are wasting our time chasing after something that will never happen will simply be removed from now on. Now exceptions.

Also, the main thread will soon be locked since there is no point leaving it open. I think everything that had to be said is said.

Mylow will probably only re-surface again once this whole storm settles down. I think I will ask @stefan if we can open up a special locked thread that only Mylow and a few others (known builders) can post to. That way he can come in and put his comments without being blasted and we could get some more direct insight. Anyways time will tell how all this pans out.