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MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

Started by wattsup, April 04, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

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Michelinho

@ X00013

So you never heard of "Project Echelon".

@ maw2432,

Nice wheel. Are your dice loaded?  ::)

Hi wattsup,

I like the small metal strip idea as it would probably weaken the field or bend it so the entry is smoother but it will also weaken the exit push so longer grouping of "C" pusher magnet might be needed. Try different positioning in the inside of the C and even in the bottom  perpendicular to the platter. Round or flat may give slightly different results.

I'll try to set up a jig to take more pictures of manipulated magnetic fields, got a few of my grand kids home for Easter Weekend so that may slow things down a bit.

Take care,

Michel

P.S.: Got the magnets last night,  the motor generator that is in the making will have a 6.125" diameter and will have 8  6" X 2" X 0.500" that weight a little more than 1 lb each. The electronic module we will try has 2 output one gives positive square waves and the other fills in with high frequency pulses during the same time as the first pulse. If I can couple the hall effect board, that should give lots of BEMF. It comes from a medical air breather assist unit. The fan was noisy so they installed a newer motor with controller board but the electrical circuit was still in perfect condition in both. The controler monitors speed and regulates it according to the set input setting.
 
Edit: Try on the side of the exit/entry rotor magnets also.


Michelinho

Hi all,

In part two I will try to explain how you can pull in one vortex at the pole of a magnet while the same action does push in the opposite direction creating a vortex that is easy to get into and that has a repulsing effect with a lot more bang for free.

If you do the same to the rotor magnet, you can get away with the "U" magnet and the rapid demagnetization. I have first try to get pictures done to illustrate although the viewing film my not be adequate for the job as it contains very fine iron particles that mess with the fields. If not, I'll do a few drawings. That is when I am off the painkillers.

One picture and one document from Howard Johnson's work from the Cheniere's site:
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/johnson.htm
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/howardjohnson/index.html

Take care,

Michel

P.S.: Those who saw and understood the previous pictures will already know what I mean by sucking in one vortex or a complete pole with the aid of a shaped weaker magnet just like Howard Johnson did.


jester

Quote from: jester on April 09, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
I ripped a magnet out of an old hard drive for a stator. It's curved and has a north south.at the ends. My best pattern so far seems to be.

a 3 - 2 then a 3 - 2 - 1 and then it repeats

S stands for a space and R for rotor.

R S R S R S S R S R S S R S S S R S R S R S S R S R S S S  pattern repeats


I mentions it cause there is a lot of odd numbers. Mylow had a lot of 3 rotors sets and 7 rotor sets on his wheels and closed off with an even number don't know if it means much. one last thing the hard drive magnet is a bit strange. by holding it and just changing the angle slightly there were a couple of times the wheel wanted to try and rotate in the other direction.(not flipping north south but by just changing the angle) Stator position and angles seemed to be important for me in the way it exited and enter the gate. Some form of adjustable stand for your stator might be worth the effort.

Someone else might need to confirm this my wheel is slightly warped. What seem to work best in working out my pattern was starting the wheel in the middle or a set or 2 before the middle in what ever rotors I had around the edge. It like the ends balance each other  and I could see a bit more clearly the effect of the pattern I chose. When I started it at the ends it looked like the pattern was a dud as I was building it till it started to get more than halfway around the disc. building a pattern from starting it at the ends all the time seemed to cause the wheel to slow down with the more magnets I added. When I worked from the middle( or a set or 2 before the middle) in finding my patterns adding more magnets did not seem to cause the slow down.

:o :)





Change for a better wheel (less wobble) and things are not the same scrath what I said about the patterns  ???

queue

Still have a few things i wanted to test before i give it up and rake the yard  .. but i came across this config today ..
So far none of the original Mylow array configs i have tested have worked for my mags or my rig.

Today i tried a rotor array that seemed to work out pretty well. On the disk in the vid there are 2 different test arrays
but check out the one with 16 mags in it..
Interesting .. it's swings ..

i plan to test a disk with this rotor config continued around 16.3 or maybe 16.4
If this thing does work it's probably different for each set of stator-rotor mags one might use.

You tube is here ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEpD9hoiRQ

Cheers
Queue

Michelinho


Hi Queue,

Congrats, you have just found the proper spacing of the rotor magnets for your stator magnet width. Put a narrower stator magnet and 16.4 will react like the one you have on the less effective grouping.  ;)

You might still get rapid demagnetization if it is working in repulsive mode though.

Take care,

Michel