Please, Please, look at this video!

[Lilhawk]

@Broli

your piston design got me thinking and i found a flaw in its application. I have attach a picture showing that at the max magnetic attraction your connecting rod is at 12 o'clock which adds very little
energy to the crank.  One idea that I thought might help with this is a sliding connecting rod. This will allow max attraction to happen at 2 o'clock and allow the crank to go through to 10 o'clock ( counter clockwise rotation- don't ask ) . This will also give you about 90-120 degrees of crank rotation time to get the flux bars in place before the connecting rod starts to  pull at 10 o'clock

A= shows max torque at 2:00

B= shows sliding connecting rod at max extension at 12:00


Now I do know that this does not address the whole bar attaction equalization part. Low-Q has made this point.
He has posted data that is most useful and also got me thinking about that part. I will be asking him for a little more data shortly ...hopefully he can help.

The clock positions are approximate and probably would change for an actual build

Lil'hawk

[Low-Q]

@Broli

your piston design got me thinking and i found a flaw in its application. I have attach a picture showing that at the max magnetic attraction your connecting rod is at 12 o'clock which adds very little
energy to the crank.  One idea that I thought might help with this is a sliding connecting rod. This will allow max attraction to happen at 2 o'clock and allow the crank to go through to 10 o'clock ( counter clockwise rotation- don't ask ) . This will also give you about 90-120 degrees of crank rotation time to get the flux bars in place before the connecting rod starts to  pull at 10 o'clock

A= shows max torque at 2:00

B= shows sliding connecting rod at max extension at 12:00


Now I do know that this does not address the whole bar attaction equalization part. Low-Q has made this point.
He has posted data that is most useful and also got me thinking about that part. I will be asking him for a little more data shortly ...hopefully he can help.

The clock positions are approximate and probably would change for an actual build

Lil'hawk

Be careful with questioning @brolis ideas. He is a very sensitive man when it comes to findings that is somewhat threatening his ideas.

Anyway. You can look at magnetism as POTENTIAL energy. This is what both @broli, and his magnetmotor fellows forget totally. As long this potential energy doesn't change (In other words, the magnetic "charge" doesn't change), no work will be done. It is magnetism that was applied to the magnets, and magnetism has also to disappear in order to take this energy back. But as long the magnetism isn't changing, no work can be done.

This is just like believing putting a heavy object upon a table, and expect that this potential energy will do work and simultaneously keep a constant hight of the object. As you and others sure understand, this is impossible, simply because no change in potential energy is namely conservative, and can therfor not do work.

Using magnets in a setup that one believe will do work, looks promising because the system is too complex for everyone to see the whole picture, and by that will not understand why the system doesn't work when it is built.

But telling storys like this to the believers out there is like talking to the wall. It is usless, because then they believe we are payed by the goverment to hide secrets or something. So they will still spend the rest of their lifes trying to trick nature - and fail over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.

Vidar

[Low-Q]

At least you let the cat out of the bag. A statement like this on this forum should be banable. You have nothing left to look for here than spreading your negativity and trying to sabotage others.

Let me put it this way:
If you are going to try building a magnetmotor, I would strongly advice you not to, but rather look into other directions, other alternatives.
It will not benifit anything but costing you a lot of painfull time and money.

Look at my previous post here, and you will understand what magnets do to a system. I am here to help you lost guys out of this bottomless hole. But ofcourse, it is hard to be told that all your work and attempts, and spent money is for nothing when it comes to magnet motors. I understand your anger towards me, which is actually your problem. You take this personally, and instead of trying to prove me wrong, you attack me personally - that is even a better reason for YOU to be banned of this forum. Just think this over before you do something more stupid towards me.

Vidar

[broli]

Low-Q we already established you are an idiot so why are you still here. You don't have to lecture the crap my professor taught me again. There are 100's of textbooks that do that already.

Just don't post here. That's not too much asked.

[Low-Q]

Low-Q we already established you are an idiot so why are you still here. You don't have to lecture the crap my professor taught me again. There are 100's of textbooks that do that already.

Just don't post here. That's not too much asked.

"We" or you alone?

I will keep on posting facts here as long people believe they can get energy out of permanentmagnets. That is my right to do so, but it is also your right to post ideas that will never work in the very same forum.
No matter how hard you hate me, no matter how silent I get in this thread, you will never be able to make a working magnet motor. Magnets are conservative as long they does not change magnetic properties. A permanent magnet, as in PERMANENT, is only containing potential energy that is not changed. As long this potential isn't changed, no work has been carried out. That is why we include an electric circuit that is altering this potential energy in order to carry out work. Without something lifting a weight to another hight, no work has been carried out, so to speak.
So don't think you can silence me, but try to prove me wrong instead. If not, you can find something else to discuss. You know I'm right, but you have just gone too far to realize your defeat.

How hard is it to understand these very basic physics? Your "professor"? Who is that? Your cat?
Vidar