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Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?

Started by powercat, April 13, 2009, 06:40:33 PM

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Omega_0

He should stop using those meters and just connect few bulbs at the output and note the time they last for. Before that he should measure the voltage at the battery (isolated).

Next he should charge the battery up to the same voltage and simply connect those bulbs directly to the battery (with nothing else connected) and note the time again.

This is really simple. :)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

gyulasun

Quote from: amigo on April 25, 2009, 02:08:10 PM
Why does he keep talking about BEMF, like in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYKg42_oks

I though he was collecting inductive collapses NOT the BEMF?!

My understanding is that BEMF is opposing the voltage that's creating the EMF in the coil simultaneously while the current is switched ON (like inertia relating to the movement of some mass in space).

He says at 4:25 that when it collapses (the field) "...instead of going back into the battery, we now redirect it upward."

Redirect upward how? The diode there will also prohibit the flow, as it points downwards?!

I assume he uses the Conventional flow of current (positive to negative) and not the Electron flow (negative to positive), as indicated by the arrows on his drawing.

@amigo

I agree with you, Tommy (and unfortunately many other experimenters, even members here) use incorrect terminology when referring to the voltage pulses created during the collapse of the magnetic field in a coil.
The term Back EMF should be used with electric motors where the rotor winding moves in the stator field while also receiving the input power, and the induced voltage works against the input voltage.  The example you mention for back EMf is also ok with me.

Unfortunately this bad terminology usage would be the least to mention but the bigger problem is his pulsed current measurements problems.  I am afraid he fools himself fully into believe his circuits relally show extra output...

rgds,  Gyula

powercat

Quote from: chrisC on April 25, 2009, 02:58:31 PM
Thanks Cat for updating his new videos. I have been following Tom's stuff on youTube and this guy is not only sincere but is hands on and no dummy, even though he's not 'university' educated. The numbers on the battery outputs & PWM inputs to the coil outputs driving the capacitor & motor seemed amazing. Even though the measurements of pulsed currents may not be accurately determined, even if you take 50% off for 'measurement' mistakes, this stuff is real!

A simple way to determine how much excess energy is delivered is to ask him to connect a series of 100W light bulbs to the generator and see where it stops lighting up? At the generator output voltage, the total current can be easily measured. No complicated measurements needed. Agree?

cheers
chrisC

Hi chrisC
currently Tommey is only answering questions on YouTube,he has already been asked to test different ways of measuring and hopefully in time we will get a more accurate answer

@all
Latest one
Pulse Generator, bigger load test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKMStFmK_Rg&feature=channel_page

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

nievesoliveras

@all

I think that he gets his battery charged because he uses an outside of the circuit pulse width modulator. We are trying to use a transistor to pulse the circuit, that uses the same battery to run and to charge.

I read somewhwere that to get the battery charging the way we are trying to do it, we need to charge a capacitor to twice the battery voltage somehow and then release through a diode to the battery.

That charged capacitor must be charged by the same circuit and fire the voltage shot through the diode when the transistor is on the off stage. On that way it does not interfere with the voltage directed to the battery.

Sincerely, I dont know how to do it.

Jesus

powercat

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall