HHO explosion slowing down the burn speed of HHO to get compatible with gasoline

[d3adp00l]

Stephan, I didn't mention anything about engine longevity, so I wonder why you did? Many common metals don't suffer from hydrogen enbrittlement, there plenty of info on the subject.

By trying to get a normal engine to run properly on hho, and actually realize the full potential of the fuel is like trying to break the speed of sound on land with a flathead engine design. You missed my point.

Heck, before I ran my engine, and then the generator, I don't remember anyone even begin able to even attempt to be able to answer the question of how much hho does it take to run an engine on hho. Someone had to know that info, but it sure wasn't public knowledge.

And the energy output of a conventional engine for a given amount of hho hasn't even been recorded by most of the people who are now working with engines.

Here is the fact running hho in a conventional engine will never self run, never ever, ever.

The engine will have to be at least 80% eff. to achieve a COP of greater than 1, well at least if you do the energy calcs properly thats the indication.

The process has to start somewhere, and it has, the point is to start with the proven and work on, not try to dumb down the fuel, (heck first define the fuel) but to work with the fuel and its properties.

[Les Banki]

"we need just one guy getting a HHO generator produce enough gas to run a generator
and have the generator output looped back to the HHO Generator to produce the HHO gas
in a selfrunning mode."

Stefan,

Here in Melbourne (Australia) it is common knowledge that we had/have such a guy who got his first car running on water, 30 years ago now and the second one (a large van) about 10 years ago, with the "government's" blessing, provided that he keeps his mouth shut!!!

Both cars are still running to this day.  (and he is still NOT talking!)

No, this is NOT a 'fairy tale' story.  I know Peter (his real name)  personally and have seen his first car about 15 years ago. 
He told us (yes, several people present in my workshop) the whole story himself.

(If you are interested, I will try to make time to write it down and post it.)

Yet, we have people right here who will tell you that: 
"Here is the fact running hho in a conventional engine will never self run, never ever, ever. "

This Forum, just like most Forums, is INFESTED with oh-so-educated 'know-alls', nay-sayers, skeptics, loud mouth amateur and professional, paid "debunkers" and general trouble makers.
Some of them are getting absolutely DESPERATE in their efforts to discredit!
I have a great respect for your patience with those posters.
Mind you, I have extremely 'thick skin' myself.
I DO NOT argue.
I make statements but ONLY about things I know for certain.

Sure, everyone is entitled to have an opinion and express it, without censorship.
However, if ALL readers could learn to IGNORE all the negativity and abuse and never responded, those posts would disappear very quickly!

Having monitored this Forum daily for something like 6 years, I could tell you heaps about a lot of the 'posters'.  (Keep in mind that I also studied psychology.)

Best regards,
Les Banki

[hartiberlin]

Hi Les,
many thanks for your support.
Yes please post the story of your friend Peter.
We will see how the new HHO cell that is developed by a German overunity.de user will work out.
When we will build up a 133 plate cell driven directly from the 2 KW output of the generator to get about 2.4 Volts per 2 series plates, we will see, if the power output will be enough to generate enough HHO mixed with air to run the generator.

[d3adp00l]

Les in one way I say your right, but in another I say your full of it.

First I don't care about fanatsy stories, of mythical people and ideas. So if there is something to what you said, guess what it doesn't matter a bit, why? Simple if it isn't being implimented it doesn't exist. So your buddy Peter is either a liar, a coward, or just imagining things.

You can say whatever you want about me, but guess what, I can PROVE myself can you?

Second, you are so fast to jump on the bandwagon that I am being negative, that you missed what I really said. You picked the one line that suited you and ran with it, instead of reading what I wrote in completion, and looking into what I have done in the field.

So long as you are promoting stuff that supposedly exists, and not working on what really exists you are hindering progress, and wasting peoples time in pursuits that are fruitless, because there is always some missing part or mystical thing that no one else can repeat but the inventor.

Stephan this place is filled with it. If you really want to push towards success, then reality needs to be accepted, explained and understood, so it can be built upon

I mean for God's sake look where this stuff was in mid 2006, virtually nothing was concrete and no real progress was made.

Now we understand down to a science, an electrolysis device and its attributes. If we are going to exceed what it can do right now, then we need to understand how and why it works in the first place.

so called educators who claim to know something are just as bad as so called devices that work but cant be replicated.

I am neither, I actually do it, and others can actually repeat it.

As the old saying goes, put up or shut up, on both sides of the fence

[jibbguy]

d3adp00l , you just said you could "prove yourself"... So please show how you intend to do so regarding your rude and uncalled-for reply to Mr. Banki's statements.

...We all know that you certainly cannot "prove" those derogatory and ad-hominem comments you made. 

You are giving us your opinion there; over things that your really have no personal knowledge of. "Opinion" is no excuse for slandering people who post here, just because you don't like what they say.

I wish you and many peeps here could understand the underlying importance of avoiding this "negative pole field" to the continued health of OU and other similar forums. WTH is the intent with that stuff anyway.. To brow-beat or disgust people into not posting?? Whether it is the intent or not, with many i have spoken to, it is certainly the result (... Disgust).   
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As it happens Mr. Banki has related parts of this story before; in a published and well-known documentary on Free Energy suppressions; and i think we are lucky to have him post here... As many of us have seen this vid and have wanted to hear more about these particular incidents for a long time now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=024J8-Z_T4c

So Mr. Banki, please disregard! And tell us more about this famous water car. Also if you can do so, please tell us about your deceased friend as well... So we may help honor him and his work.