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Salt Water Fuel From Radio Waves

Started by NickT, April 25, 2009, 11:37:36 PM

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newbie123

I don't buy this guy's claim.         A 13.57 Mhz photon just doesn't have enough energy (normally) to ionize salt water, from what I've read..  If it was a 13,570,000,000,000 Hz photon, then it might be possible.   If it was possible, wouldn't the sun have disassociated the ocean by now (over millions of years)?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

TheNOP

Quote from: newbie123 on April 29, 2009, 12:09:22 PM
I don't buy this guy's claim.         A 13.57 Mhz photon just doesn't have enough energy (normally) to ionize salt water, from what I've read..  If it was a 13,570,000,000,000 Hz photon, then it might be possible.   If it was possible, wouldn't the sun have disassociated the ocean by now (over millions of years)?
how do microwave oven work ?
does it need to ionize something to do what is does ?

newbie123

You can't compare the two phenomena,  they're completely different.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

TheNOP

Quote from: newbie123 on April 29, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
You can't compare the two phenomena,  they're completely different.
why is it different ?

tell me, since water molecules can be "shaked" by RF, isnt it safe to assume that the same can be true for any molecules, given the right frequency is meet ?

newbie123

Microwave ovens  work by rotating water molecules back and forth really fast which generate heat.   The process is called dielectric heating.    In dielectric heating all the energy goes towards heat generation... In photoionization, ideally no energy is lost in heat, and all the photon's energy is used to eject the H-O-H binding electrons, which make hydroxy gas.
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.