What does a "kick" look like on an oscilloscope?

[turbo]

Hooptie hoop ZPE blah blah is this is that....scrrrrribd rrr


This is dead on.

I appreciate all the effort and the experimental results posted here.  I wish I could of participated earlier on.  Please hear me out.

Look once again at the relevant text from SM:

Notice what the kick is a result of:

(INRUSH CURRENT) + (WEAK MAGNETIC FIELD OF THE EARTH) = KICK

I'm not sure how to state it more plainly then to say the kick is an imparting of momentum to the filament.  Just like a coil in a magnetic field MOVES, so does the filament, it moves when it is forced to move "in a quick sharp short duration" by an impulse  or (force x time)

If you have a DC current on a filament in a magnetic field, it will deflect to one side and stay there, but won't oscillate at it's natural frequency (based on how thin, long and stiff it is).

Another analogy, take a hammer and hit a bell to make it ring, you just "KICKED" the bell. 

That is what a KICK is according to SM,  and I'm sorry if anybody disagrees, but not listening to what he says can be a waste of time.  All your research is great and applies to something I'm sure.

You see, were dealing with PHYSICAL motion of the coils, that's why there is vibration in the TPUs, and that's why there is cork material in the center of the large TPUs (to allow vibration and not dampen it).   And that's why magnets are needed, they have a stronger magnetic field and when current + magnetic field are COMBINED, motion and vibration occurs, due to the lorentz force law.  We hear that in the videos of the small TPU on a glass table.  Is anybody listening?

EM

P.S. and I explained before why mechanical vibration is used, it has very ... very ... very ... high Q,  if you want to convince yourselves,  scope a LC tank circuit after it is stimulated with a square signal and you will see it decay in approximately microseconds, or maybe milliseconds, but that is short compared to the duration of ringing after hitting an object, like a bell, or a glass, or a tunning fork, and hearing it ring for a few seconds !!  The longer something rings, given an equivalent input of energy, the lower the dampening forces or "resistance" in the "circuit", and that means high Q.   So what do you do with a high Q receiver?   You can tune and amplify signals to large values, that's what.   If you have a Q of 100 000, and your loop can pick up 1 mV without resonance, then with the high Q resonance that value would be (1 mV) X (100 000) = 100 Volts.   So that's how it works.  And of course there could be the on setting of rotation and wobbling in the rings or coils which produces a DC output, or magnitostriciton is the high Q phenomena used, all questions to be answered in time.

[Grumpy]

The kick can be used to produce a polarization current.

He knew exactly what it was but this term is too precise and would quickly tip his hand.

Others know too, talk of "radial fields" and all that, displacement current, scorch fields, etc.

radial electric field, not radial magnetic field, and then you move it so to speak, That's Hooper's motional e-field but he screwed that up.  Wilbert Smith screwed it up too.   Both tried to do it mechanically.

[BEP]

Both tried to do it mechanically.

No appreciable mass can move fast enough for the rotation.

I wish folks would try the varied delay pulse train before declaring it unrelated to an SM kick. Not only is it a kick, by any other definition, it is also a canon firing a canon firing a canon, etc. etc.
Having a single coil fired, in succession, by multiple switches with separate power supplies is not the only method that works but seems to fit today's 'logic' hardware mindset.

If you want it to make vibrations just wind it so it fits SM's description of a TPU.

Can't wait to get back to the bench. Anything beats living out of a suitcase and hauling test equipment everywhere I go 

[giantkiller]

I am following the premise that the toroidal constructs on top of the one open TPU and the same two in the sm17 are the canons. A slight bias on the copper run coming out of the middle would produce the hose that gets squeezed to produce the canonballs. The canons are facing vertical instead of horizontal. In the sm17 though the runs are then continued into a circular track.

[Mannix]

I appreciate all the effort and the experimental results posted here.  I wish I could of participated earlier on.  Please hear me out.

Look once again at the relevant text from SM:

Notice what the kick is a result of:

(INRUSH CURRENT) + (WEAK MAGNETIC FIELD OF THE EARTH) = KICK

I'm not sure how to state it more plainly then to say the kick is an imparting of momentum to the filament.  Just like a coil in a magnetic field MOVES, so does the filament, it moves when it is forced to move "in a quick sharp short duration" by an impulse  or (force x time)

If you have a DC current on a filament in a magnetic field, it will deflect to one side and stay there, but won't oscillate at it's natural frequency (based on how thin, long and stiff it is).

Another analogy, take a hammer and hit a bell to make it ring, you just "KICKED" the bell. 

That is what a KICK is according to SM,  and I'm sorry if anybody disagrees, but not listening to what he says can be a waste of time.  All your research is great and applies to something I'm sure.

You see, were dealing with PHYSICAL motion of the coils, that's why there is vibration in the TPUs, and that's why there is cork material in the center of the large TPUs (to allow vibration and not dampen it).   And that's why magnets are needed, they have a stronger magnetic field and when current + magnetic field are COMBINED, motion and vibration occurs, due to the lorentz force law.  We hear that in the videos of the small TPU on a glass table.  Is anybody listening?

EM

P.S. and I explained before why mechanical vibration is used, it has very ... very ... very ... high Q,  if you want to convince yourselves,  scope a LC tank circuit after it is stimulated with a square signal and you will see it decay in approximately microseconds, or maybe milliseconds, but that is short compared to the duration of ringing after hitting an object, like a bell, or a glass, or a tunning fork, and hearing it ring for a few seconds !!  The longer something rings, given an equivalent input of energy, the lower the dampening forces or "resistance" in the "circuit", and that means high Q.   So what do you do with a high Q receiver?   You can tune and amplify signals to large values, that's what.   If you have a Q of 100 000, and your loop can pick up 1 mV without resonance, then with the high Q resonance that value would be (1 mV) X (100 000) = 100 Volts.   So that's how it works.  And of course there could be the on setting of rotation and wobbling in the rings or coils which produces a DC output, or magnitostriciton is the high Q phenomena used, all questions to be answered in time.

Nice to Have you back! Great post!