Closing the loop on Milkovic's two-stage mechanical oscillator?

[Cloxxki]

All,
If indeed output is greater than input as so nicely demonstrated with the squeeze-lamps by its inventor on video's (don't have them handy now), how hard would it be to gather some electricity from the output, and use it to, pinball machine style, give the pendulum a small push, perhaps even twice a full swing?
It seems that all that's needed is then one or a few initial pushes, and the thing could sustain itself, as well as doing some useful work on top of that?
The pinball setup would ensure good impuls, at exactly the right time. One could even devise a secundary pendulum, to let the actuator be amplitude-independent. But carefully monitoring work done should realtively easily be able to keep the pendulum swinging with it's uptimum range.
I can imagine closing the loop mechanically, but that seems to stumble on more timing issues. If such a loop has been closed before, please point me to coverage of that?

Thanks,

J

[tagor]

If indeed output is greater than input as so nicely demontrated

sorry but it is NOT demonstrated

and

nobody can loop this Milkovic's two-stage !!

[ruggero]

It's all about timing!

[Cloxxki]

Hey, if it's not proven yet, the proper timing (solved by the pinball device) might help towards disprove or otherwise firmly comfirm it.
When a pinball touches the bounce plate, a current start running triggering the plate to repell the ball. If the pendulum is a ball, the slight push could come just when it's needed.

In case of too strong a pendulum swing, the piball plate could be mounted on a spring, to absorb and then reverse the impuls. If at the sme time the load setting on the generator is increased accordingly, the next pendulum incoming swing should be reduced already.

If none works, then apparently all the devise does, is concentrate force to momentarily apply more weight than the pendulum's weight could apply constantly. Like jumping on the bathroom scale. It WILL show more than you weight, as long as you spend some time in mid-air and put all your weight back on the scales.

Just trying to come up with an idea to (dis)prove that the machine is overunity.

Who knows, perhaps the same slight impuls from the "hand", with a longer levers, could also lift such heavy weights or compress that many squeeze lamps.

[ruggero]

Cloxxki:

Try look at this interesting ball-clock system.

http://www.betrisey.ch/ecyclo.htm