Sjack Abeling: Working Principle

[Cloxxki]

Sjack Abeling is doing nothing but trying to make an old design work that won't.

Interesting. Would this be valid as prior art to his patent application?
If so, the patent office should be made aware of it.
In the event that Abeling's design can be made to work, it IS open source?

[AB Hammer]

Interesting. Would this be valid as prior art to his patent application?
If so, the patent office should be made aware of it.
In the event that Abeling's design can be made to work, it IS open source?

Yes it is prior art to his patent application. But I can't tell you how old but I believe it came from a older book about perpetual motion.

[Cloxxki]

Please post the cover and bibliographical details on that book please? The roughest scans would be the best.

Yes it is prior art to his patent application. But I can't tell you how old but I believe it came from a older book about perpetual motion.

This might be significant for the future of free energy.
I grant anyone their patent, I've worked for the EPO even, and am now co-writer of one myself, but only when all rules are obeyed.
Surely Abeling and his patent attorney were not aware of this prior art, or perhaps they have reason to believe his invention adds to it significantly.
In any case, if specialists like yourself consider this picture a possible prior art, it is your moral duty to bring it to the attention of the patent office to consider in their investigation.
No-one should be allowed to patent something which has been previously published, be it with serious intensions or to redicule. Investigators unfortunately can only spend so much time on their work. They'll do their best, but at one point will have to call.
Especially if this forum's replicators come to the conclusion that indeed Abeling might have something here, this evidence could be vital for the future of the FE world.

Also, I must say I'm quite stuck by the simplicity shown in that drawing. One outer guide, and it seems to do nothing differently than Abeling's replication as Dusty is building it. More considered shapes and dimensions, but otherwise only more complicated.

[stgpcm]

If he has a working wheel, that non working wheel isn't prior art.

Let's see the working one, then work out what the kick is, and then see what prior art there may be.

I'm slightly worried by the base of that one though - It needs to be closer to the front of the machine.

[AB Hammer]

Cloxxki

If it is so and the book is found then the patent would have been a big waste of money. But if it has enough differences then the patent can still be valid. 

But as stgpcm  pointed out
>>Let's see the working one, then work out what the kick is, and then see what prior art there may be.<<

The biggest fear I have is that it is a deal where other people get involve and they try to see what has been done and what they can do, and if they get a runner then the patent holder even though incomplete can take it and claim it. Before I would even try to build the Sjack Abeling device. I would have to have proof that it truly is already running. This we still don't have, just speculations and a paper for patent. If patented and a runner. Why is there no proof of its existence?