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Overunity Machines Forum



Ricks Pipe Dream

Started by AquariuZ, May 23, 2009, 04:40:30 AM

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rickoff

Quote from: lostcauses10x on May 25, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
Nice try on this one, yet the timing and input energy from the hand is the why of what has been shown.

Again it comes down to  the how of correcting this problem.

So it is input energy to drive the wheel, as well as some way to time such external energy to make it work.

Well so far it is using the hand as a solenoid to push pull the wheel.
Strange how folks do not understand. 
They think they are just timing it, instead of supplying the input energy that is driving the wheel.

Rick It will be interesting to see if you can devise a way to over come this.  You are now to the point in this were folks say it becomes imposible to do by just magnets. 
So far it has not been overcome.

Good luck.

Yes, so far the stator movement is accomplished by hand movements of the stator arm, but this is only temporary.  The stator arm was only used as an experimental device for testing purposes. It will soon be replaced by an entirely different mechanism.  What some of you fail to understand is that the input energy is all spent in moving the stator - not in moving the wheel, and that it requires little energy to do that. It is purely the magnetic interactions that are rotating the wheel, and you will clearly see that occurring at the front and tail ends of the magnet groups, where stator movement is halted.  At those points, the unmoving stator produces rotation and accelleration forces, and this is clearly demonstrated in the videos if you watch closely.  It is most easily seen when the wheel is just starting into rotation.  At the end of one group, the stator is already positioned properly for entry of the next rotor magnet group.  Watch the videos carefully, and you will see how that works.  The beauty is in the simplicity.  No need to complicate things by thinking of a hundred reasons why it might not work.  Instead, climb onboard the project and start thinking about reasons why it is feasible, and begin suggesting ideas to overcome any negative aspects that actually do remain to be solved.  I can honestly say that there aren't that many left to worry about, and that every development so far has proven to reap a positive result.  At some point I may find myself up against a brick wall, and may need some help to get past that, but I won't be discouraged.  Instead, I'll rely on my own ingenuity, and that of countless other helpful replicators and fellow experimenters to crush that wall and move beyond it.

Best regards to you,

Rick  :)   

markdansie

Hi Ri,
i admire your efforts.
do not kid yourself that the actions of moving the stator is not what is powering your wheel.
One device i worked on would self start by moving the stator in, accelerate then slow down over 12 minutes. Had me fooled for a few minutes.
You are correct some energy goes into moving the stator.
The big problem is overcomming the cogging or sticking point. many people have use variuos mechanical and electrical means to do this. In all cases more energy was expended than could be harnessed from the device. Some people Like Mylow are more creative and use fishing line to overcome this.
I encourage you and your efforts as you may find a way of overcomming this. Many others (hundreds have failed) It is the hard work of people like you that may one day overcome the problem.
Most of all, enjpy what you are doing its not a bad hobby.
I look forward to following your progress and if I have something constructive to say I will forward it. You area decent honest person. I only attack those who choose to fake and the delusiional few who tend to attack everyone if they question anything.
Mark

rickoff

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 25, 2009, 04:56:20 PM
Rick's doing great but there are some pitfalls, and since he looks like he thinks his design is new, I just thot I'd tell him what a lot of other people already have found out.

Tinsel, let me just say up front that I am not suggesting that there is anything new about anything that I am doing.  I never made that claim, nor infered it in anything I have said or written. Surely every conceivable thing that can be done with magnets has been experimented with by someone at one time or another.  I am only piecing together the most positive aspects into a build that is simple, straight forward, and easy to replicate by anyone wishing to do so.  My primary purpose in releasing this project in an open source environment has been to make this very useful test apparatus available to all.  It is the only idea that I can, and do, claim ownership to, and yet I am giving this idea away freely.  There are countless uses for employing this test stand.  Besides the current use for which I am utilizing it, it can also serve as a test stand for a pulse motor, Bedini SG, a mechanical Beseler type wheel, and other uses.  It can be used vertically or horizontally, and the open structure makes it easy to work on projects and to implement structural changes and enhancements.  So in this regard, my apparatus is something new and different, and which is sorely needed by experimenters.  In regards to my current magnetic motor-generator project, the advantages of many replicators using the same experimental apparatus should be self evident, since whatever works for one will work for all.  Standardizing the test platform will allow experimenters to pursue the same outcome using somewhat differing methods, and sharing their test results openly will allow other experimenters to avoid unnecessary duplications and to pursue other yet unexplored approaches to problem solving.  If anyone here can think of a better way to move this, or any other, project forward then by all means do so, instead of maintaining a no productive attack dog stance whenever someone suggests a better way of doing things.  Remember, I only came here because I was invited.  I am not trying to promote myself, or to cram my ideas down anyone's throat.  I fully acknowledge it is possible that I may fail in my quest, but my mind is not constrained by such negative thoughts.  You can be with me or against me in this quest.  If you are against me, and I do fail, then perhaps you will derive some satisfaction in saying, "I told you so."  But will you really have gained anything of importance?  I think not.  On the other hand, those who are with me have a great deal to gain if we can move this project forwards to successful completion, and very little to lose if we are wrong in our beliefs.  I don't want followers who blindly believe in what I say and who look on me to lead the way at every step.  I want intelligent, open-minded, and methodological thinkers who will stand shoulder to shoulder with me in a think tank mentality dedicated to achieving success.  There is no place in this for disbelievers, or ego strokers who wish to assert their claim to superiority by attempting to attack others and bring them down.   down.  I am just a common, ordinary man, make no claim to be a genius, and don't want to be regarded as one by anybody.  I only ask that you give my ideas and methods due consideration. If you don't like or appreciate them, that's fine, but then move on to something else and stop being an unwelcome nuisance to those who are interested in learning more.  Keep in mind that you will never learn anything useful if you contunuously maintain a negative attitude and a mind closed to acceptance of possibilities that are different or opposed to your normal thought processes.

Best regards,

Rick  :)             

rickoff

Quote from: nyctuber on May 27, 2009, 07:27:33 AM
The correct way to approach it is the way I have done it. Nothing I said was remotely insulting, and the true believers had no answers. The second I wondered about Rick's mental state, the true believers pounced and cried 'AH HA!'

My initial question was, what is Rick's plan? No one had an answer.

There you go again, nyctuber, hoping to convince others that your blatant attacks, insults, and outright lies were of honorable intentions.  If anyone is interested in what you have to say then let him step forward and say that he stands with you.  After that, it would be best if all who do stand with you simply take your b.s. elsewhere, because it will be understood that no one else is interested in hearing it. Frankly, I would have thought that this forum would have rules of proper conduct that should have ousted you from further participation in discussion threads long ago.  My advice to you is to find another thread or forum with a subject that you truly are interested in - perhaps one where the participants all enjoy abusing others, and also being abused by them.

Good luck to you in your search,

Rick  :)

Oh, I nearly forgot to mention it but the "plan" that you speak of is quite well documented in my videos if you take the time to watch them.  But of course you won't, since you are not really interested.

rickoff

Quote from: markdansie on May 27, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
Hi Ri,
i admire your efforts.
do not kid yourself that the actions of moving the stator is not what is powering your wheel.
One device i worked on would self start by moving the stator in, accelerate then slow down over 12 minutes. Had me fooled for a few minutes.
You are correct some energy goes into moving the stator.
The big problem is overcomming the cogging or sticking point. many people have use variuos mechanical and electrical means to do this. In all cases more energy was expended than could be harnessed from the device. Some people Like Mylow are more creative and use fishing line to overcome this.
I encourage you and your efforts as you may find a way of overcomming this. Many others (hundreds have failed) It is the hard work of people like you that may one day overcome the problem.
Most of all, enjpy what you are doing its not a bad hobby.
I look forward to following your progress and if I have something constructive to say I will forward it. You area decent honest person. I only attack those who choose to fake and the delusiional few who tend to attack everyone if they question anything.
Mark

I assure you that I am not kidding myself about anything, Mark.  I know that the wheel will not continuously revolve unless there is continued movement of the stator magnet.  All I am saying is that there are ways to overcome and nullify the negatives while augmenting the positive aspects, and to achieve self sustained movement by doing so.  Thanks for your kind words and support of my efforts.

Best wishes to you,

Rick   :)