Ricks Pipe Dream

[lostcauses10x]

TK reverse the concept of stator and rotor with this one.
What he calls his stator is the item that gets magnetic drag from the rotor in this one.
Think of his stator as an oscillating rotor. Of course this is easy to see by having to use the HAND to over come that drag, that it is there.
Some torque and or force measurements would be good on such.
One then could see such relations to the velocity changes to the fly wheel , and be able to estimate the MOI of such.
One then could see what and were the problems are.

Oh folks do not realize that even such ideas (if found) applied to the electromagnetic motors of today would be so useful and cost to use savings, that such would be applied rapidly.

On of the reasons I still think about the guy and what he shows with the induction motors and PMs.

Like I said I had wrote a post with a lot of questions, mostly relating to measurements, I thought about it a bit, and decided to drop it and wish him luck and hope he keeps folks informed of what he finds.

If you want to play TK use the whipmag rotor layout and two stators in a position they can not vibrate. You can get damn close to original rundown times. Takes a bit of work to position them to do so, but they will get damn close. I suspect playing with strengths and positions one might eventually get the conservative of a break even, yet such a test bed and the precision placement of such would be difficult to make.
Yet at best one might eventually achieve a equal, not a gain from such.
Note if they are allowed any motion it will be a loss.  LOL such does not over come friction and normal drag of course.

to others:
The why I mention this to folks is simple. On a free flywheel, with no work to be done but its own friction and drag, and push or pull that has to be done by the stator would also need to be compensated by device to at least equalize the loss of such.

This is something on the latest attempts of today I do not see at all.  Even the drawings and ideas short of that perpetual mobile it is not shown or even considered.

To get a break even on the loss, some thing must be placed to equalize it. You know I still am thinking showing Unity;  Motion at unity would be a good thing by the way. LOL

[ramset]

Ricks vid # 18
Chet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ga2_Yp__oI&feature=channel_page

If everybody thinks alike

SOMEBODY is not thinking

[Lakes]

#19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07xSRWoHn14&feature=channel_page

It`ll be interesting to see the mech that Rick uses to move the stator.

[poynt99]

It is interesting to note the similarities between a PMM and a RC tank used for transferring charge between capacitors. It is thought by many that this can be done with an electrical or electro-mechanical load placed in between, and have that load driven for free. This is not so unfortunately.

The same is true of Rick's pipe dream. The energy required to move the stator is going to equal, and actually because of frictional losses, exceed the amount of energy that is gained by the flywheel through its rotation.

What will happen once Rick "connects the link" between the rotor and stator is the rotor will gradually slow similar to how it does now without any stator movement.

This really has been tried dozens of times before with no success. It doesn't appear Rick did any research beforehand. It matters not what configuration is tried, the result is always the same. Confirmation should be just a few videos away.

This is not a skeptical point of view as I have indeed tried this myself.

.99

[ramset]

Poynt

The energy to move the stator can vary

I don't know Ricks technique [between the rail and stator]

However, would a very,very [did I say VERY] light, fairly long[and very strong] Lever change things?

In your opinion, which I value TREMENDOUSLY!

Chet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6bE9TzetSA