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Started by the badger, May 26, 2009, 12:22:27 PM

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hansvonlieven

No, plated electrodes do not work. You need solid metal. Nickel I don't know, though I cannot see how that would work since you need the catalytic reaction between a platinum group metal and Hydrogen.

I don't know where you live but here in Australia Deuterium is on a watched chemicals list together with toxins and drug precursers.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

newbie123

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 26, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
No, plated electrodes do not work. You need solid metal. Nickel I don't know, though I cannot see how that would work since you need the catalytic reaction between a platinum group metal and Hydrogen.

I've read that 10nm thick Pd particles  will produce 20-90 percent excess heat (aka FE).. So why wouldn't Pd electroplated electrodes?

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I don't know where you live but here in Australia Deuterium is on a watched chemicals list together with toxins and drug precursers.

Really?  I figured this might be true at first...  But..   I've searched all over the web and I can't a single reference, for your country or mine..   Do you have a link?

Here's a good site: http://www.fusor.net/

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

hansvonlieven

Quote from: newbie123 on May 26, 2009, 07:21:56 PM
I've read that 10nm thick Pd particles  will produce 20-90 percent excess heat.. So why wouldn't Pd electroplated electrodes?

From what I have read part of the Palladium actually gets consumed in the process. The plating will disappear quite quickly and the base metal comes into contact with the deuterium.

QuoteReally?  I figured this might be true at first...  But..   I've searched all over the web and I can't a single reference, for your country or mine..   Do you have a link?

Other than what my mates at the chemical supply company tell me, and the fact that they want to see photo ID before they will supply you, none. You will find it equally difficult to get a list of watched chemicals in relation to illegal drug manufacture. They just don't advertise these things openly.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

newbie123

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 26, 2009, 07:32:13 PM
From what I have read part of the Palladium actually gets consumed in the process.
Do you have a reference for this?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

hansvonlieven

QuoteMizuno describes few moments of epiphany. There are moments of excitement, but most of the triumphs are long expected, and a good result does not mean much until you make it happen again, and again after that. There are few revelations. The scientists do not suddenly grasp the answer. They gradually narrow down a set of possibilities. Often the same possibilities are examined, discounted, and then reconsidered years later. Recently, Mizuno, Bockris and others have increasingly focused on so-called “host metal transmutations,” that is, nuclear reactions of the cathode metal itself. The cathode metal was inexplicably neglected for many years. The term “host metal” is misleading. It was an unfortunate choice of words. It implies that the metal acts as a passive structure, holding the hydrogen in place, cramming the deuterons or protons together. The metal is a host, not a participant. The hydrogen does the work. Now, it appears the metal itself is as active as the hydrogen. The metal apparently fissions and fusions in complex reactions. Now the task is to think about the metal, and not just the hydrogen. Theory must explain how palladium can turn part of itself into copper and other elements with peculiar isotopes.


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When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx