Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[CRANKYpants]

A question to Inventor:

From your experimental experience so far what's your view about HV geometry:

They work better if they are thick and short (say same thickness to length or more) or if they are elongated and narrow (consequently)?


Regards,
Baroutologos

I WOULD THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF REACTION ARE YOU LOOKING TO CREATE.

YOU ARE STORING ENERGY IN THE COIL CAPACITANCE AND DISCHARGING IT THROUGH THE COIL - I THINK BOTH TYPES EACH HAVE THEIR OWN MERITS - BUT I PREFER A LONGER CORE.

THE COIL THICKNESS/LENGTH IS GOING TO DETERMINE COIL INDUCTANCE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WIND IDENTICAL COILS ON DIFFERENT BOBBINS AND INTERCHANGE THEM ON THE SAME CORE - DO A TEST AND POST YOUR FINDINGS FOR ALL.

THE "GOD'S APRIL FOOLS JOKE ON SCIENCE" VIDEO EMPLOYS SHORT COILS
AND
THE "CONVENTIONAL vs REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION" VIDEO USES LONG COILS
PERHAPS YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE?

I ALSO ONLY WIND SERIES BI-FILAR AS WELL AND NOW ONLY USE 22 GAUGE WIRE (OR LOWER) - WHICH PRODUCES OVER 1100 VOLTS (COOKED MY $400.00 METER INSTANTLY AND FRIED ALL MY 10 AMP SWITCHES ON MY METER BOARD). THE LIGHT SWITCHES WERE GOTOLUC'S IDEA.

THE REACTION WE ARE AFTER RIGHT NOW IS A HV COIL THAT:

DOES NOT DECELERATE THE ROTOR UNDER LOAD
DOES NOT ACCELERATE THE ROTOR UNDER LOAD EITHER
BUT PRODUCES MAXIMUM USEABLE STEPPED DOWN POWER.

ALL THE SERIES WOUND BI-FILAR COILS CAN BE ELECTRONICALLY SWITCHED TO PARALLEL WOUND BI-FILAR IF EMPLOYED IN AN ELECTRIC CAR TO PRODUCE REGENERATIVE BRAKING.

AND SOON WE WON'T EVEN HAVE AN EXTERNAL MOTOR BUT USE THE GENERATOR COILS AS MOTOR COILS TO GET THE ROTOR UP TO SPEED SO THIS WILL IMPACT COIL GEOMETRY AS WELL DOWN THE LINE.

CHEERS
T

[baroutologos]

Hello Mr T.

Yea, now we are talking! I think now you discuss some serious technical aspect here. Parallel coils, ways of connecting them and load handling capability of HV coil in terms of accelaration/decellaration.

i am glad you share that info.

Unfortunately, I have not confirmed yet with my noobish setup, the merits of the parallel wound, series connected HV coil since initial results were quite discouraging.

I remember your "angry" responce.

My observations so far indicate that the parallel connected coils employed in a HV mode can replace step-down transformers and handle the loading far better concerning decellaration effects. Anyway, i have to double-check that.

Brilliant idea the electronic switching in order to make at demand parallel / series connected the coils. I will keep an eye on this also.

Btw i was looking for laminated coils, instead of messing with dismantling existing transformers etc etc
see at reasonable prices 

http://www.erseaudio.com/Products/IQAll/ELC54-18-1500
http://www.erseaudio.com/Products/IQAll

regards,
Baroutologos

ps: lol at the private message of I_Ron
ps2: I am seriously outresourced. I humbly progress since R&D is... carnivorous

[i_ron]

ps: lol at the private message of I_Ron

He who laughs last laughs best

Ron

[alan]

Still alive and kicking I see, very good
a quick question: why exactly is the countering field [bemf field] delayed? your video showed a nice explanation that it did, but why? perhaps the effect can be isolated into  a small setup.
Is decoupling cemf from emf the holy grail to FE?
sorry for asking without first reading through the topics.

[CRANKYpants]

Still alive and kicking I see, very good a quick question: why exactly is the countering field [bemf field] delayed? your video showed a nice explanation that it did, but why? perhaps the effect can be isolated into  a small setup.

Is decoupling cemf from emf the holy grail to FE? sorry for asking without first reading through the topics.

I HAVE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE BUT IT CAN'T HURT TO STATE IT AGAIN.

1)
THE BACK EMF INDUCED COUNTER-MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCTION, TIMING AND STRENGTH ARE ALL A FUNCTION OF THE CURRENT FLOWING IN THE COIL.

2)
THE CURRENT FLOWING IN THE COIL IS A FUNCTION OF THE COIL IMPEDENCE
(AC RESISTANCE OR INDUCTIVE REACTANCE + DC RESISTANCE).

3)
THE COIL IMPEDENCE IS A FUNCTION OF THE FREQUENCY OR RATE OF MAGNET APPROACH.

4)
AS LONG AS THE MAGNET IS APPROACHING THE COIL ABOVE THE THRESHOLD FREQUENCY - COIL IMPEDENCE WILL NOT ALLOW THE COIL TO PRODUCE A MAGNETIC FIELD BECAUSE CURRENT CANNOT FLOW IN THE COIL.

5)
CURRENT CAN ONLY FLOW WHEN THE AC RESISTANCE DROPS TO ZERO.

6)
THE AC RESISTANCE DROPS TO ZERO WHEN THE MAGNET IS NEITHER APPROACHING NOR RECEDING FROM THE COIL OR TDC (TOP DEAD CENTRE).

7)
AT TDC (OR THEREABOUTS) CURRENT FLOWS AND PRODUCES THE DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD WHEN THE COIL INDUCED AND CAPACITIVELY STORED VOLTAGE IS MAXIMUM.

THE COIL'S CORE HYSTERESIS CURVE MAY PLAY A ROLE IN DELAYING THE HV COIL'S INDUCED MAGNETIC FIELD UNTIL THE RIGHT MOMENT AS WELL. THE DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD MAY ALSO PLAY A ROLE IN REDUCING THE CORE DRAG (COGGING TORQUE) ON THE ROTOR - SO THE MOTOR MAY DO LESS WORK BECAUSE THE DISCHARGING HV VOLTAGE TURNS THE GENERATOR COIL INTO A MOTOR COIL FOR A BRIEF INSTANT AND THE PRIME MOVER MAY SEE LESS CORE DRAG. - CREDIT TO HOPTOAD WHOEVER THE F HE IS?


AT OR AROUND TDC A "PERFECT STORM" IS CREATED WHERE COIL IMPEDENCE IS MINIMUM (ONLY DC RESISTANCE OF THE COIL) - COIL CURRENT IS MAXIMUM - AND A DELAYED MAGNETIC FIELD IS PRODUCED WHICH PUSHES AWAY THE NOW RECEDING MAGNET AND ATTRACTS THE NEXT OPPOSITE POLE MAGNET ONE THE ROTOR.

9)
I DOUBT IT IS THE "ONLY" HOLY GRAIL BUT I AM CERTAINLY WILLING TO BET IT IS THE FIRST SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EXPLANATION - THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE ACCEPTED BECAUSE IF LOGIC RATHER THAN EMOTION IS ALLOWED TO DICTATE - THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS 100% VALID AND ALREADY FULLY KNOW AND UNDERSTOOD.
T