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Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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CRANKYpants

Quote from: baroutologos on June 14, 2009, 03:57:25 AM

I wound a bifillar ala Tesla style coil (photos pending) with two wires (not twisted) at 38 ohms each. This way the paracitic capacitance is some thousands time more than sigle wire wound coil.

Bifillar coil from my initial experiments has way better way of handling lenz law. (even though does not accelarates)

Regards,
Baroutologos

ALMOST EVERY COIL I AM USING LATELY IS BIFILAR.   parallel-wound, series connected

SHOWN CLEARLY IN THIS VID RED & GREEN WIRES:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPMbWzNuMOg&feature=channel_page

THIS VID USES BIFILAR ONLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ&feature=channel_page

IF YOU ARE USING A 6 POLE ROTOR - YOU OUGHT TO SPECIFY THAT BECAUSE FREQUENCY IS A DECIDING FACTOR IN COIL PERFORMANCE.

THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY A HV COIL DOES NOT ACCELERATE...
AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.

NOT ENOUGH TURNS
NOT ENOUGH IMPEDANCE
FREQUENCY TOO LOW
MAGNET STRENGTH TOO HIGH
TURNS NOT WOUND TIGHT ENOUGH - IF WOUND BY HAND.

THIS IS A REPLICATION THREAD - ANY STATEMENT SHOULD BE PRECEDED BY "IN MY EXPERIENCE"
SO THAT OTHERS ARE NOT MIS-DIRECTED.

I REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE GO BACK AND RE-TEST WITH A 12 OR 18 POLE ROTOR AND THEN REPOST YOUR FINDINGS - YOUR FREQUENCY WILL BE HIGHER AND THE IMPEDANCE OF YOUR BIFILAR COIL WILL ALSO BE IN THE CORRECT RANGE.

THANKS
T

hoptoad

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 13, 2009, 11:10:43 AM
BACK TO RULE #1

ALL GENERATORS HAVE CORES AND CORE LOSSES = NON ISSUE

Thane

Core design and material (and rotor design and material) dictates how much loss, and how it is manifested.
Cogging torque and reluctance losses are always issues to be considered and dealt with by correct design and materials choice.


hoptoad

Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 14, 2009, 08:20:49 AM
THIS IS A REPLICATION THREAD - ANY STATEMENT SHOULD BE PRECEDED BY "IN MY EXPERIENCE"

"In my experience" this thread should be called Miscellaneous Perepetia, since the Perepetia effect is not limited to a specific design or anyones specific experience.

As I_ron so eloquently put it, the Perepetia effect is a mundane effect, and can manifest over a broad range of impedances and core designs. But it can still be useful, mundane or not.

There are plenty of other designs on You Tube exhibiting the same or similar effects, even though they vary significantly. The question is, who'll come up with the most efficient total system input versus total system output?

Few are likely to have access to all the same materials, machinery, workshops etc to make exact replicas of any one design.

That can be a good thing. A broader range of designs and ideas has a greater chance of producing better methods and results, than everyone doing the same thing.

Cheers

CRANKYpants

Quote from: hoptoad on June 14, 2009, 08:28:49 AM
Core design and material (and rotor design and material) dictates how much loss, and how it is manifested.

YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AS USUAL.

WE ARE NOT NOR HAVE WE EVER BEEN IN THE GENERATOR CORE BUSINESS.

WE ARE IN THE GENERATOR REDUCTION OF ARMATURE REACTION BUSINESS.

THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS THE CORE BECAUSE WE EMPLOY COILS WOUND ON BOBBINS WHICH WE INTERCHANGE ON THE SAME CORE. AND ALL WE LOOK AT IS COIL REACTION TO LOADING.

I.E

HC COIL DECELERATES AS PER LENZ'S LAW, PRODUCES DIMINISHING OUTPUT AND REQUIRES ADDITIONAL PRIME MOVER INPUT.

HV COIL ACCELERATES, PRODUCES INCREASING OUTPUT AND REQUIRES REDUCED PRIME MOVER INPUT.


THE ONLY POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH HV COILS COULD HAVE BEEN A REDUCTION IN PERFORMANCE WITH HIGHER GRADE CORE MATERIAL (LOWER CORE LOSSES ETC) BUT IT HAS BEEN SHOW THAT HIGHER GRADE CORE MATERIALS ONLY INCREASE PERFORMANCE.

THIS IS WHY WE UPGRADED CORE MATERIALS MONTHS AGO TO CONFIRM THIS FACT.

NOW WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A ONE PIECE STATOR MADE WHICH EMPLOYS MULTIPLE COILS EITHER INDIVIDUALLY WOUND OR SIGULARLY WOUND.

ALL OF THIS INFO HAS BEEN PRESENTED MANY TIMES.

AGAIN THIS IS A REPLICATION THREAD - NOT A SELF-AGGRANDIZATION THREAD - I AM ONLY HERE TO ASSIST OTHERS AND I ONLY CAME BACK TO REDIRECT A REPLICATOR BACK ON COURSE - I AM NOT HERE TO BE INSTRUCTED ON THE OBVIOUS.

QuoteCogging torque and reluctance losses are always issues to be considered and dealt with by correct design and materials choice.

LARRYSEE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RE-POST YOUR PREVIOUS COMMENT - SO WE CAN ELIMINATE THIS DICK MEASURING BS ONCE AND FOR ALL AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.

T

CRANKYpants

Quote from: hoptoad on June 14, 2009, 08:52:01 AM
"In my experience" this thread should be called Miscellaneous Perepetia, since the Perepetia effect is not limited to a specific design or anyones specific experience.

As I_ron so eloquently put it, the Perepetia effect is a mundane effect, and can manifest over a broad range of impedances and core designs. But it can still be useful, mundane or not.

Cheers

YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AS USUAL.

"IN MY EXPERIENCE" MEANS EXPERIMENTAL LAB TESTING EXPERIENCE NOT SOMEONE'S JADED AND CYNICAL OPINIONS - WHICH INCLUDES BOTH YOURS AND I_RON'S AT THIS POINT AND IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE TO THE ORIGINAL INTENTION OF THIS THREAD.

T