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Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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Pageygeeza

I can't believe this whole thing has turned into a flame war, it's bloody ridiculous coming from what I would assume are professionals.

I'm still hoping this hasn't come from my core question, (I'll feel bloody awkward if it is.)

I'm not as knowledgeable as you lot, so I can't/won't pass judgement on Thanes theories, but I do know mine is fundamentally different, I'm still waiting on word back from one company for parts and I've got in touch with a BIG company to see if they're interested in my ideas.

As for my design, I'm not cheating by using pre-made motors/generators, everything is hand built.  By doing that I can put the motor and generator on the same shaft.  I can't wait to get this beauty finished!

P.S.  Don't feed the trolls. :)

CRANKYpants

Quote from: baroutologos on June 17, 2009, 02:48:08 AM
Ok, this is it.

Regarding Thane's attitude, perhaps in the worst case scenario he is under a  confidential agreement and cannot disclose much of modern advances. But from what i read so far what the man is saying are in allignment with his work.

Who will criticize him? Tell me one of his critics what does he offered to the public? Thane offered Peripeteia. You offered what? Criticism?

Get lost

Regards,
Baroutologos

ps: pissed

TO CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF THINGS...

1) I DELETED RON'S POST BECAUSE IT UNFAIRLY IDENTIFIED SOMEONE (EVEN THOUGH THE ACTUAL NAME WAS BLACKED OUT). YES IT WAS SENT TO TYLER HAMILTON BUT TYLER HAS INTEGRITY AND DOES NOT PUBLISH A PERSON'S NAME WITHOUT PERMISSION. IT WAS ALSO SENT TO I_RON IN CONFIDENCE OR SO I THOUGHT. SO I DELETED IT IN AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT SOMEONE'S IDENTITY - THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AND I WON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF TRUSTING I_RON AGAIN BACAUSE ANYTHING GOES WHEN HE IS ANGRY.

ALSO I DID NOT STOP ANYONE FROM SENDING ANYTHING (CORES) TO I_RON - THIS IS JUST A LIE.

2) IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER I WOULD SAY HOPTOAD IS A SPOOK WHO ONLY WANTS TO DISTRACT PEOPLE - WHICH IS A REAL SHAME CAUSE HE KNOW HIS STUFF INSIDE AND OUT.

"When R1/Globe1 was turned on, the motor slowed a little bit, When R2/Globe2 was turned on the motor may have slowed a little bit again, but not as much when R1/G1 was turned on. But when you turned R3/Globe3 on, there appeared to be no change in motor speed at all. You continue and find that when you turned R4/G4 the motor seemed to speed up again. Same with 5 and 6. It's almost at the speed when you started. Then to your greatest surprise, you turn the short circuit on, and the motor goes to full speed as if there were no load at all."
-information by Hoptoads - 25/09/2007

FOR ANYONE WHO KNOWS - THIS IS CLASSIC CORE SATURATION. GRADUALLY THE CORE FILLS UP WITH BACK EMF INDUCED FLUX AND ROTOR CORE DRAG IS REDUCED BECAUSE LESS AND LESS ROTOR FLUX CAN ENETER THE CORES. IT IS INTERESTING BUT EVENTUALLY THE CORES WILL OVERHEAT.

3) BACK TO PEREPITEIA REPLICATIONS

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF - BELIEVING IS SEEING

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SEE IT EVEN IF YOU TRIP OVER IT.

THE FINAL AND MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR IN YOUR REPLICATIONS IS THE SOUND THE HV COIL DISCHARGING MAGNETIC FIELD MAKES WHEN IT HITS I_RON'S ROTOR.
I_RON'S ROTOR OPENNED MANY NEW DOORS BUT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

IF YOU GET THINGS RIGHT - YOU WILL ACTUALLY HEAR THE MAGNETIC FIELD PINGING OFF THE ROTOR WHEN THE HV COIL IS ENGAGED - JUST BEFORE ACCELERATION HAPPENS. (DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT SEND GOTOLUC A PM AND HE WILL CONFIRM THIS). IT SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

AS I HAVE SAID THE HV COIL IS ACTUALLY A CAPACITOR UNDER THE CORRECT CONDITIONS.

A CAPACITOR DISCHAGES INSTANTLY BUT ONLY AT TDC.

SO THE SOUND OF FLUX HITTING THE ROTOR IS THE CAPACITOR STORING ENERGY AND THEN RELEASING IT ALL AT ONCE. - YOU WON'T GET THIS SOUND WITH A TYPICAL COIL THAT IS ACTING AS AN INDUCTOR PRODUCING AND RELEASING A "GRADUAL" MAGNETIC FIELD.

AND YOU WON'T GET THIS SOUND IF THE CORES "DISAPPEAR" MAGNETICALLY WHEN ENGAGED.

YOU WON'T GET THIS SOUND IF THE MOTOR IS CAUSING ACCELERATION - END OF STORY.

SO PEOPLE CAN ARGUE WITH ME OR JUST GO AND REPLICATE THEMSELVES.

4) I HAVE NOT SIGNED ANY CONFIDENTUALITY AGREEMENTS AND WILL NOT. I AM IN A PUBLIC UNIVERSITY AND GIVE PUBLIC DEMOS TO ANYONE ANY EVERYONE WHO ASKS WITHOUT QUESTION - OFTEN I DON'T EVEN ASK WHO THEY ARE - I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID NO AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO "LOOK UNDER THE TABLE" - TAKE NOTES - PART NUMBERS ETC.

FINALLY I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO "STEAL" THE TECHNOLOGY IF THEY WISH.

I CAN'T DO MORE THAN THIS.

T

PS
IF YOU PEOPLE WANT IT I WILL GO BACK AND DELETE ALL THE NON-REPLICATION POSTS AND CLEAN THIS THREAD UP AND WE CAN GET THINGS BACK ON TRACK FOR THE SINCERE LEARNERS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DELETE NON-REPLICATION POSTS IF DESIRED.


baroutologos

I am 100% with you mr T.

Time to clean this up. Its a replicator thread, not chat log.
You can start by deleting my post(s).

Regards,
Baroutologos

ps: Respect the inventor

minde4000

Quote from: baroutologos on June 17, 2009, 02:48:08 AM
Ok, this is it.

I demand from moderator just to KICK OUT all people who constantly criticize Peripeteia. (get the f....ck out of here)

This is a replication thread omg. Go open one of yours named "Why Thane's pereipeteia can never work".

If anyone read the first major thread from beggining to end is full of criticism even though remarkable progress and results given. WTF you want more??
Go play tetris.
If moderator does not take action, i will make my OWN thread of replication and kick out all criticism. That's said democratically.

Regarding Thane's attitude, perhaps in the worst case scenario he is under a  confidential agreement and cannot disclose much of modern advances. But from what i read so far what the man is saying are in allignment with his work.

Who will criticize him? Tell me one of his critics what does he offered to the public? Thane offered Peripeteia. You offered what? Criticism?

Get lost

Regards,
Baroutologos

ps: pissed


Thank You Baroutologos. I do get an impression also that i_ron and HT are trying so HARD (suspiciously too hard) to disprove Ts work.  What the f is up guys? Give others a chance to try replicate or go create another topic as Baroutologos suggested. Why trash this one as well?

I support Thane as well.

Regards Minde

i_ron

Quote from: minde4000 on June 17, 2009, 09:40:16 AM

Thank You Baroutologos. I do get an impression also that i_ron and HT are trying so HARD (suspiciously too hard) to disprove Ts work.  What the f is up guys? Give others a chance to try replicate or go create another topic as Baroutologos suggested. Why trash this one as well?

I support Thane as well.

Regards Minde


I posted my experiments.

It is up to you to examine the evidence.

I have spoken the truth

One day you will see


Ron P