Stan Meyer Energy is Stolen from The Sun

[HeairBear]

What's with the broken record syndrome Newbie? You keep repeating yourself as if no one is listening to you. You keep trying to debunk with your opinion and show no data of your own. I have never encountered a person who claims that their misunderstanding is proof for debunking. Are you saying "I don't understand what he said so it's wrong."? Although when it comes to Boyce, you turn into the exact opposite of what you just claimed all others are. You don't believe Stan was legit even after numerous studies and demos of working devices, but, Bob who has nothing more than stories and poor circuit diagrams along with no working demos is in your opinion the real deal...

Smoke another bowl Newbie, I think it's working!

[Farrah Day]

HB

You don't believe Stan was legit even after numerous studies and demos of working devices,

Just curious, what studies and demos of working devices are you refering to?  I know of none that back up Meyer's claims.

[HeairBear]

HB

Just curious, what studies and demos of working devices are you refering to?  I know of none that back up Meyer's claims.

I thought you would never ask...  Here is one, Copied from this page http://www.osen.org/Technologies/Hydrogen/StanMeyerReport/tabid/373/Default.aspx

Article about Stan Meyers     

       Reprinted in part from an article in "ELECTRONICS WORLD + WIRELESS
       WORLD" January 1991:

       Eye-witness accounts suggest that US inventor Stanley Meyer has
       developed an electric cell which will split ordinary tap water into
       hydrogen and oxygen  with far less energy than that  required  by  a
       normal electrolytic cell.

       In a demonstration made before Professor Michael Laughton, Dean of
       Engineering at Queen  Mary  College,  London,  Admiral  Sir  Anthony
       Griffin, a former controller of  the  British  Navy,  and  Dr  Keith
       Hindley, a UK  research  chemist.  Meyer's  cell, developed  at  the
       inventor's home in    Grove    City,   Ohio,   produced   far   more
       hydrogen/oxygen mixture than could  have  been  expected  by  simple
       electrolysis.

       Where normal water electrolysis requires the passage of current
       measured in amps,   Meyer's  cell  achieves  the  same   effect   in
       milliamps.  Furthermore ordinary  tap water requires the addition of
       an electrolyte such as sulphuric  acid  to  aid  current conduction;
       Meyer's cell functions at greatest efficiency with pure water.

       According to the witnesses, the most startling aspect  of  the Meyer
       cell was that it remained cold, even after hours of gas production.

       Meyer's experiments, which he seems to be able to perform to order,
       have earned him  a  series  of US patents granted under Section 101.
       The granting of  a patent under  this  section  is  dependent  on  a
       successful demonstration of the invention to a Patent Review Board.

       Meyer's cell seems to have many of the attributes of an electrolytic
       cell except that  it functions at high voltage, low  current  rather
       than the other   way   around.  Construction  is  unremarkable.  The
       electrodes - referred  to as "excitors"  by  Meyer-  are  made  from
       parallel plates of  stainless  steel  formed  in   either   flat  or
       concentric topography. Gas  production  seems to vary as the inverse
       of the distance between them; the patents suggest a spacing of 1.5mm
       produces satisfactory results.

       The real differences occur in the  power  supply  to the cell. Meyer
       uses an external  inductance  which  appears  to resonate  with  the
       capacitance of the   cell   -  pure  water  apparently  possesses  a
       dielectric constant of about 5 -  to  produce  a  parallel  resonant
       circuit. This is  excited  by  a  high power pulse generator  which,
       together with the  cell  capacitance  and a rectifier diode, forms a
       charge pump circuit. High frequency pulses build a rising staircase

Dublin Tech has a nice study too, I can dig it up if you like. For some reason, I can find what you say is not there and I seem to understand it when you say it doesn't make sense. Hell, if you really have to have your cake and eat it too, I can run over to Stephen's house and have a chat with him too. He's got his own company out also and he's looking for investors. For some reason though, I get the feeling that even if I did replicate it for you and proved beyond a doubt that it works, you would still deny the facts, for you seem to be discussing this topic just to stir the pot.

The only thing you want is an equation? of what? A non-exothermic electrochemical reaction induced by external stimuli? What the hell is an equation gonna do for ya? Solve the problem of building it? According to Dublin it's "4H3O+ +4OH- --> 2H2 + O2 + 6H2O"

[nightlife]

newbie123, I will answer all your questions with this one submission.

It is obvious that you do not comprehend what Stan has been said to have accomplished and or how it could be accomplished. He was a bright man and bright enough to not make it as obvious as it really is as to how it works.
Knowing that you can not comprehend what Stan has been said to have done leads me to believe that there is no way you can comprehend what I have said. I gave you some clear easy to understand examples of what energy is, it's up to you to take the time and really think about them and then you may start to understand what it is that I am talking about.

I am not a big fan of Stans but I have took the time to understand what he could have done and how it could be done. I personally am not a fan of using a inteligent design as a fuel source. I prefer to search for ways to utilize the natural flows of energy that inteligent designs emit.

Good luck to you and please don't try and debunk anyones ideas and or designs untill you fully understand what it is that they are trying to do and or have done.

[nightlife]

@ Nightlife

You weren't by any chance Meyers ghostwriter were you, because you're well up there in the realms of pseudoscience. Have you any idea of the nonsense you have just posted?

I totally agree with Newbie, nothing in any video lecture I have seen of Meyer inclines me to think he was bright or indeed gifted in any way... rather the opposite - and the videos are there for everyone to see. He always comes across as a regular Joe talking about stuff waaay beyond his knowledge or understanding and is clearly totally out of his depth. If you can't see this it is only because you lack the education in the subject to do so - as it appears do many others.

And as Newbie highlights, to simply assume something works because no one else has yet replicated it to prove it doesn't, is a quite absurd statement.

And what the hell is all this talk of vibrance... for Pete's sake???

Farrah Day, I may be in within the relm of what your thought of what pseudoscience is to you but please note that I did give some examples and therefore can not be thought of as being pseudoscience. Pseudoscience is the lack of supporting evidence and our senses alone are all the supporting evidence needed to crasp the theory I have posted. I could go more into detail but it would take the focus off the topic of this thread.
Your education appearently does not allow you to know how to understand what Stan has been said to have done and or how it could work. It would be absurb to assume something works becuase no one has yet to properly duplicate it and trust me when I say that it took me some time to truly understand how it could work. I personally have not tried to replicate it mainly becuase I have no true interest in utilizing water as a energy source.

By you asking what all the talk of vibrance is leads me to assume that you don't have a clue about what true energy is. We have all these people out here looking for ways to produce energy but yet I have yet to come across anyone who even knows what energy is. LOL

Whats electricity? A VIBRANCE
Whats a sound? A VIBRANCE
Whats a smell? A VIBRANCE
Whats a feeling? A VIBRANCE
Whats seen? A VIBRANCE
Whats energy? A VIBRANCE

Vibrance is every thing and without it, there would be nothing. Vibrance is not created, it is released. I amy start a thread to help you and others understand what it is that I am talking about.

Good luck to you and I do hope that you too can learn to grasp what true energy is.