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Stan Meyer Energy is Stolen from The Sun

Started by L505, May 29, 2009, 02:49:59 AM

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CrazyEwok

LOL!!! i love reading the banter here... Look since he is no longer alive he was one of but a few things...
1. A simplton that may have stumbled onto something that he barely understands... but it is still his and he invented it.

2. A fantastic con-man!!!

3. A non-commercially educated genius who knew exactally what he was doing but didn't know how to make the general public... or even the people who knew about the industry... how it worked...

4. A calculative intelligent greedy man who simply ran into bad luck.

5. An obscure genius who wanted everyone to know he could to something but never really wanted them to be able to copy him...

Take your pick... and get over it!!! arguing over what he meant or what sort of guy he is... all this talk about how someone is right and someone is wrong with only your ignorance and your word as proof... fantastic!!!

now where is Dankie time to stir him about his wire and his team that are still winding bobbins no doubt!!!

newbie123

Quote from: newbie123 on June 12, 2009, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: quarktoo
Quote from: quarktoo on June 12, 2009, 09:09:02 AM


    Meyer is referring to the oxygen ozone cycle.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone-oxygen_cycle

    He produced a powerful form of ozone O4 in the air gas processor. The Ozone and water mist were injected at 120 PSI into the injector and a "high voltage high frequency arc" bond cleaved the covalent electron off the excited H2O molecule using the stronger attraction force of the O4 atom which instantly cleaved (common chemistry term) "fractured" Meyer's term or "shattered" Puharich's term the H2O molecule.

Really?   Where does Stan Meyer explain this?

I really wish someone could give me a reference for this O4 production talk.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

Farrah Day

I wouldn't hold your breath while you wait for a reply Newbie... you might start turning a little blue.

Quarky also posted this when he was attempting to educate me through his superior intellect:

QuoteQuote from: Farrah Day on June 13, 2009, 01:54:18 AMI mean, come on, to call highly conductive salt water a dielectric is preposterous.


Ever heard of a saltwater capacitor? All tesla coilers know how to make these including half the people at this site. I guess you were in chemistry class while the boys were building Tesla coils.

This made me smile, because saltwater capacitors use glass as the dielectric, the saltwater effectively acts as the conducting electrodes. So much for his superior intellect and all his clever talk.

I've never seen or read anything whereby Meyer went into that kind of detail - frankly I doubt he was capable of it.

I'd forget Quarky's input, he's said his piece, had his moment in the limelight and obviously can't provide a reference to what he stated.
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

alan

Quote from: L505 on May 29, 2009, 02:49:59 AM
Actually, I found some information stating that Stan Meyer actually steals energy from the Sun. This is new to me since before I found him in videos stating that the energy was from the vacuum or from "God" (sigh).

If it comes from the Sun, it would explain where it comes from without it being from Magical sources.

Some quotes below:

http://www.automorrow.com/articles/meyers2.html

"Nitrous oxide formation is held to a minimum." (end quote)

Ahh, but is it in YOUR cells? Lightening causes fertilizer...

(begin quote) "When you ignite gases from water, the by-product is a de-energized water mist which goes out the exhaust," Meyer explained. "It's an open energy system. The water mist is then re-energized by absorbing photon energy from the sun and then returning to the earth's water supply in the form of rain for energy re-use. We can also use a dosed, transparent recycling system to keep the vapors from going out into the atmosphere, yet still allow the photon energy absorption process to take place. This is now being looked at for possible future use"...

..."The Water Fuel Cell only uses natural energy present in our environment," said Meyer. "It doesn't add to or subtract from universal energy that is already present in the combustible gas atoms of water. All we have done is tap into this universal energy safely."  (end quote)

Hmmm.... at one point Stan was saying it was from the Vacuum. From this source in 1993/1994 he says it is from the sun? Is the energy from both the sun and the vacuum, or just the Sun alone? or does the Sun recharge the vacuum?  These questions are not necessarily meant for you to answer right now, because you probably can't - they are just to ponder.

http://www.automorrow.com/articles/meyers2.html

Warning: anyone working on the Stan Meyer device better be pretty careful about what they are doing to our environment and water supply. (if  the stan meyer system is even legitimate; I have small faith that it is.)

This could also mean something happened to Water when earth was formed.. and it absorbed energy through photons. Could even tie into evolution and/or Big Bang theories. Is it pseudoscience though? I do not know.
Try to see it like this:
when a photon interacts with a molecule or atom, light energy gets 'absorbed' and the energy level of the atom raises, the raise in energy is equal or less than the photon energy.
Now, how does the absorption of photon energy take place - how does the 'conversion' take place from photon to atomic energy level? [and vice versa, why does a molecule emit photons when the electron 'collapses' to the nucleus from a high energy state?]

I don't know myself, Meyer said: By pumping in energy from the vacuum, or universal energy into the energy spectrum of the atom - this is the source of the atomic energy [or ionization energy]. Photons are a way to pump in vacuum energy, so is voltage, because they force the electron to be deflected to a higher energy orbit [... longer orbit -> increased electric stress on nucleus -> slowing down of gyroscopic movement -> opening of energy apertures -> EM vacuum energy to energy spectrum ..].
according to Stan. I do believe it.

Nowhere does stan mention Ozone, but it is probable it is being produced by the air processor, since no arc discharge may takes place but a corona discharge instead - by displacement current resonance I think.
--
Unlimited Renewable Solar Energy from Water
by Dr. Peter Graneau, Dr. Neal Graneau
http://www.worldnpa.org/php2/index.php?tab0=Books&tab1=Display&id=80&tab=3

newbie123

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1323

Funny.      Typical scammer BS:   "I know exactly how Stan Meyer's tech works!"  ,   "you doubt me, and question me, so now I'm leaving the forum",  "If you send me $250, I'll show you how it works!" ..    gimme a break..







Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.