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Stan Meyer Energy is Stolen from The Sun

Started by L505, May 29, 2009, 02:49:59 AM

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newbie123

Quote from: quarktoo on June 12, 2009, 05:03:24 PM

Read them again, it is most of what he talked about.

You show me where exactly in the Meyer Tech Brief (or other document)  you see any mention of O4..     I couldn't find a single instance.

I didn't see any mention in the colorado lectures either. 

I did find this video though:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WlM-TcIxN4

I've never seen it before..  (might be old news)
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

quarktoo

Quote from: newbie123 on June 12, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
You show me where exactly in the Meyer Tech Brief you see any mention of O4..     I couldn't find a single instance.

I didn't see any mention in the lectures either. 

I did find this video though:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WlM-TcIxN4

I've never seen it before..  (might be old news)

I don't have the time to read for you, the desire to jump to your demands or the will to communicate with you any longer. Perhaps you need the reading practice and should do that yourself?

You might start with Meyer's notes at figure 5-6. There is a nice picture for you to look at. Maybe that will help.

Most people realize that if you take ambient air and run it through the electric arc of the injector, ozone is produced along with other compounds such as methanol as the CO2 in the air bonds with oxygen and other oxides as well such as nitrous oxide..

I think most people get what the purpose of the ozone generator is since Meyer talked about it in detail in his lectures. You can read how Meyer magnetically collected the "magnetic particles" and made them stable using UV light and have seen the small device mounted on the dune buggy next to the air gas processor. There are photos of it on this web site.

Farrah Day

I have never gleaned anything remotely scientific from Meyers lectures and/or videos, and I'm always amazed by the various things that some people latch on to, and take to heart. I never cease to be amazed by how many people disregard the science and take it all on blind faith.

If you have no scientific background the pseudoscience and invented technical jargon sounds very impressive, but in the real world it's nonsense. Nowhere does Meyer ever even give any balanced chemical equations for any supposed reactions. It's always about electrons being pulled off here there and everywhere!

AC or DC Faradays laws will apply if the water is being caused to ionise and charges are being exchanged.

It really does puzzle me why so many people still think that Meyer actually knew what he was talking about.  He always talks about 'natural water'. What does he mean by that.... what exactly is natural water?  Well in his video clip he goes on to say that just about any old water can be used including salt water, but in his technical brief: RE: VIC Matrix Circuit: Memo WFC 426, page 7 - 8 he states, quote:

'The dielectric property of water (being 78.54 ohms @ 25 degrees C) permits the storage of "Electrical Charge" when a potential voltage difference exists between Electrical Voltage-Plates (E1/E2 as to (E9/E10).'

Now firstly of course the dielectic constant of water is not a measure of ohms, and secondly this constant only applies to very, VERY pure water.

I mean, come on, to call highly conductive salt water a dielectric is preposterous.

Seems to me that people always conveniently overlook the garbage Meyer spoke and wrote in order not to dispell the fantasy.

To me it just emphasises the fact that you can sell anything with a bit of clever marketing, as there will always be plenty of naive and gulible people around to buy it... however useless the product happens to be.
Farrah Day

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Farrah Day
Am I mistaken? or didn't you do an extensive Meyer Cell repro attempt on this forum a couple of years ago.

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newbie123

Quote from: quarktoo on June 12, 2009, 06:39:55 PM

Most people realize that if you take ambient air and run it through the electric arc of the injector, ozone is produced along with other compounds such as methanol as the CO2 in the air bonds with oxygen and other oxides as well such as nitrous oxide..


Well if you can't support anything you state  with references,  it leads me to believe that you're just making things up and adding your own theories (which can cause problems and waste time).


Btw,  which (5-6) figure are you referring to?   I can only find "open ended energy system"  which says nothing about Tetraoxygen.


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I think most people get what the purpose of the ozone generator is since Meyer talked about it in detail in his lectures. You can read how Meyer magnetically collected the "magnetic particles" and made them stable using UV light and have seen the small device mounted on the dune buggy next to the air gas processor. There are photos of it on this web site.

That's fine and dandy , but what does all this have to do with tetraoxygen?  Were  you just making things up?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.