Where will the energy come from, to run a Magnet Motor?

[Yucca]

There NO FREE ENERGY. Using energy always comes at a price.

IronShell3d

Sounds logical, but one nagging question is; what price was paid to form the universe? The universe does exist, of that we are pretty sure, so where did the energy come from if it was just a void before? The mainstream theory "big bang" IS overunity, going from zero to something is infinite COP. I suppose this is the point where any form of logic just breaks down.

P.S.
Your theories are interesting, have you read much about the VSG reaction, and have you heard of transmuting carbon using a high current density electric arc? Do you have any ideas about this?

[Omega_0]

Curie point magnetic / heat motor video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrTvB-oK94

The metal Monel 400 has a curie temperature of 35 deg C / 95 deg F.

So as a magnet will heat an approaching ferrite as it drives the ferrite up it's BH curve, can a magnet deliver enough heat (via hysteresis loss) into a ferrite to cause it's permeability to drop lower than when it approached the magnet?

IronShell3d

Gadolinium is ferromagnetic with a Curie temperature of ~18 C to 21 C.

ROTARY CURIE POINT MAGNETIC ENGINE (oh yes, already invented !)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3743866.html

You don't need another magnet to heat up the ferro material. You can just use any conventional heat source.

Now the real question is - can the energy wasted in heating Gd to curie point be recovered by this motor ? So that one can feed it back to the piece of Gd again and again. Somebody with proper resources needs to set up an experiment.

This paper has some data on energies involved, but its not free to download
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=AJPIAS000057000003000223000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes

[Omega_0]

I've been thinking over the problem of turning off the magnet at command and another option, besides heating, seems to be connecting the magnet momentarily to a HV +ve terminal, which will drain it out of most of its free electrons. No electrons = no magnetic field.

Connecting it back to the -ve should replenish the electrons, and if the magnet is already placed in magnetic field of another magnet, it will re-magnetize at no cost.

So pulsing it with HV pulses should do the job.
Just thinking ....

[newbie123]

I've been thinking over the problem of turning off the magnet at command and another option, besides heating, seems to be connecting the magnet momentarily to a HV +ve terminal, which will drain it out of most of its free electrons.

That's not how it works, positive potential alone won't drain out any electrons or reduce its magnetism.

[IronShell3d]

Gadolinium is ferromagnetic with a Curie temperature of ~18 C to 21 C.

ROTARY CURIE POINT MAGNETIC ENGINE (oh yes, already invented !)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3743866.html

You don't need another magnet to heat up the ferro material. You can just use any conventional heat source.

Now the real question is - can the energy wasted in heating Gd to curie point be recovered by this motor ? So that one can feed it back to the piece of Gd again and again. Somebody with proper resources needs to set up an experiment.

This paper has some data on energies involved, but its not free to download
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=AJPIAS000057000003000223000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes

Hi Omega_0,

Here is the referenced patent with drawings:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=4lx8AAAAEBAJ&dq=United+States+Patent+3743866

Here it is as a downloadable PDF.

http://www.google.com/patents/download/ROTARY_CURIE_POINT_MAGNETIC.pdf?id=4lx8AAAAEBAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U1UEI2B74VT0BTXf4XiNIqD9FfOGw

IronShell3d